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What can happen when you don't disclose


What can happen when you don't disclose

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I've just found this online. It seems the family all applied for an ESTA and the father's was refused, even though he was never charged. I'm not sure how the Americans found out, and it seems they didn't just send them back on the next flight. I wonder how it all came to light.

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AB2014 - 1 Oct 18 1:40 PM
I've just found this online. It seems the family all applied for an ESTA and the father's was refused, even though he was never charged. I'm not sure how the Americans found out, and it seems they didn't just send them back on the next flight. I wonder how it all came to light.

In theory there's no way they should know and when people have asked the government if they share data the government has said no, but at least one person on here has had an ESTA cancelled despite multiple trips to the US so it seems there is some sharing going on, perhaps through five eyes? I think Unlock should investigate.
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Monkos - 2 Oct 18 11:20 AM
AB2014 - 1 Oct 18 1:40 PM
I've just found this online. It seems the family all applied for an ESTA and the father's was refused, even though he was never charged. I'm not sure how the Americans found out, and it seems they didn't just send them back on the next flight. I wonder how it all came to light.

In theory there's no way they should know and when people have asked the government if they share data the government has said no, but at least one person on here has had an ESTA cancelled despite multiple trips to the US so it seems there is some sharing going on, perhaps through five eyes? I think Unlock should investigate.

I would add though, that in the case of that particular article, it smells of made up tabloid newspaper bollocks. The only way they would know if he had been arrested is if they asked him as customs and he said yes because he forgot that he already said no on his form.
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Monkos - 2 Oct 18 11:39 AM
Monkos - 2 Oct 18 11:20 AM
AB2014 - 1 Oct 18 1:40 PM
I've just found this online. It seems the family all applied for an ESTA and the father's was refused, even though he was never charged. I'm not sure how the Americans found out, and it seems they didn't just send them back on the next flight. I wonder how it all came to light.

In theory there's no way they should know and when people have asked the government if they share data the government has said no, but at least one person on here has had an ESTA cancelled despite multiple trips to the US so it seems there is some sharing going on, perhaps through five eyes? I think Unlock should investigate.

I would add though, that in the case of that particular article, it smells of made up tabloid newspaper bollocks. The only way they would know if he had been arrested is if they asked him as customs and he said yes because he forgot that he already said no on his form.

I did wonder whether there was anything creative going on, but then it occurred to me that an arrest for money-laundering might be the sort of thing that the UK might share with the US and others in their brave struggle against international organised crime. I wonder what will happen to all these schoolkids who have been drawn into low-level money-laundering....

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Interesting, and scary if 100% true.

You'd have to think one of them must have blurted something out or ticked/written something wrong. Hopefully either that or the tabloid misreported something. Maybe one of them had a conviction or got into some mischief last time they were in the US? And usually it's just back on the next flight, not in jail in an orange jump suit with murderers. That would sound like something more serious was going on.

Odd that they have apparently travelled to the US numerous times in the past with no problem. ESTA conditions under Trump haven't changed at all.
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if you can honestly answer NO to all questions put to you on the form - then do so and submit it.

Bare in mind if your offence is so serious that it requires you to attend a police station or if it is serious that after research you find that your offence will be shared to other agencies then its best to get a VISA from the embassy.

Always done this and never had an issue.

You must make sure you have enough funds to cover your stay in the states and that you give them a genuine valid reason for travel. They always ask whats your purpose for your trip where you will be staying etc.

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