By TartanLass - 9 Aug 19 1:39 PM
Just an update that I’m presently no further forward so if anyone had anything to add please do!
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By AB2014 - 13 Aug 19 9:36 AM
+xJust an update that I’m presently no further forward so if anyone had anything to add please do!
Sorry to hear you're not making progress. I've just had a look through the government guidelines on becoming an Approved Driving Instructor. In Section 2.5, it does say there are circumstances where it's unlikely that applications to start the qualification process or registration would be accepted. If that affects your case, then if they think your offence is that bad, they won't let you start the process. In any case, that section also says that other factors will be taken into account, which would be your chance to make representations. Even though you would have an enhanced DBS check (or a PVG in Scotland), whether or not the conviction is spent would be taken into account, and your conviction would be spent in England & Wales, and is almost certainly spent in Scotland. As Debbie Sadler said earlier in this thread, this all happened 17 years ago and you've had a clean record since then. In fact, I'd say you've been a model citizen since then. You've worked hard, in a position of trust (think of the level of criminal record check...) and stayed out of trouble. You obviously needed a good level of training and performance to do that particular job, and if you have anything else in the "plus" column, such as family life or any community involvement, then put all that forward as well. Don't forget that you'll still have a criminal record check every four years for your renewal of registration, but after the initial registration you can just tell them the only thing that has changed is that your conviction was even longer ago.... BTW, is there an option to go to the Sheriff's court and have this removed from future checks? That could be helpful for future renewals, or even to avoid having to disclose in your current job.
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By TartanLass - 20 Aug 19 6:41 PM
Hi, thanks for the reply! I’m going to speak with a driving instructor training school soon to see if I can apply before embarking on training. I’ve put it off for a few weeks, scared of disappointment, guess I just need to do it. I’m not sure about the sherif court thing, as far as I’m aware it will always remain on record despite being “spent”. It’s something I certainly will look into. It was a stupid mistake I made in my younger years and at 36 years of age I’m not going to make any mistakes like that again. I’ve got two kids, a job, a mortgage, a partner and way too much to lose to even consider breaking the law again. It’s something that’s held me back a lot in life as I’ve always felt so embarrassed by if that I don’t try to progress. Over the years I’ve worked a lot on myself, there were reasons that I did what I did, not that I what sympathy or trying to make excuses but I’ve worked on those issues and I’m now at peace with the past. I’m finally ready to try and move forward even if it means telling people about my conviction. Although it’s “spent” it never really is as I feel potential employers will always offer someone with no convictions a job before someone like me.
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By AB2014 - 22 Aug 19 8:49 AM
+xHi, thanks for the reply! I’m going to speak with a driving instructor training school soon to see if I can apply before embarking on training. I’ve put it off for a few weeks, scared of disappointment, guess I just need to do it. I’m not sure about the sherif court thing, as far as I’m aware it will always remain on record despite being “spent”. It’s something I certainly will look into. It was a stupid mistake I made in my younger years and at 36 years of age I’m not going to make any mistakes like that again. I’ve got two kids, a job, a mortgage, a partner and way too much to lose to even consider breaking the law again. It’s something that’s held me back a lot in life as I’ve always felt so embarrassed by if that I don’t try to progress. Over the years I’ve worked a lot on myself, there were reasons that I did what I did, not that I what sympathy or trying to make excuses but I’ve worked on those issues and I’m now at peace with the past. I’m finally ready to try and move forward even if it means telling people about my conviction. Although it’s “spent” it never really is as I feel potential employers will always offer someone with no convictions a job before someone like me.
Well, it's true that stuff will always be on your police record, but that is between you and the police. Disclosure Scotland only put on your PVG what the rules tell them to, and if the sheriff agrees that it should not be disclosed any more then Disclosure Scotland will stop disclosing it. Once a conviction is spent, then it can only be shown on the higher levels of check, unless a sheriff decides otherwise. If you were going for a job that was eligible for a basic check, then you would have nothing to disclose. Even if you do have to disclose, having a conviction might make the difference if there's not much to choose between the candidates, but any reasonable employer should give the job to someone who is clearly the best candidate.
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By TartanLass - 15 Jul 19 3:29 PM
Hi, I’ve joined to find out if anyone with a previous conviction has ever became a driving instructor. I currently work as a dental nurse and have done for many years, however I had to disclose my conviction with my employer when the PVG check was introduced to dentistry. Now due the the PVG I’m finding it very difficult to find a new job, hoping for a career change but not sure what I can do. Have recently considered driving instructing but don’t want to pay for an expensive course to then discover I wouldn’t be accepted by the driving agency due to my past. My conviction will always show up on an enhanced disclosure as it’s an assault charge from 2002 which I recurved 240hrs community service. It’s the only time i was ever in trouble with the police but it has held me back a lot and I’m at the stage I feel I’m trapped in the same job for life. Any advice or similar situation stories would be appreciated!
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