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how to cope with the stain


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By AB2014 - 7 Jun 22 1:52 PM

dedalus - 7 Jun 22 10:30 AM
Hi,

How does one cope with the stain.
I have a minor conviction but I never thought I would be a criminal, can't get the thought of that entry in the PCN staying there forever oui of my mind.
I'm stained forever.
It will be spent after a year but will need to bear it in mind with VISA applications and insurances.
The sadness it causes can be unberarable.

How do you cope?

First of all, once the conviction is spent, it is no longer relevant to insurance, so you won't have to disclose it. For jobs that are eligible for a basic DBS check, you won't have to disclose it. For visa applications, do you actually need a visa, in practical terms, or have you just been told that you need one? Most countries have some sort of temporary authorisation to travel, such as ESTA, eTA, etc. They can't access our criminal records system, which is why they have to ask disclosure questions. They also have to rely on your answer being true, so bear that in mind.

That is just the technical, practical side, though. My mother struggled with anxiety for decades, and I've seen the issues it can cause, so I'm certainly not going to tell you what you should be thinking and feeling. I can suggest that you concentrate on what you actually have to do, rather than what is expected of you, to deal with your physical obligations, and I can only hope that time will show you that your worst fears aren't coming true.
By Mr W - 7 Jun 22 2:09 PM

To find a positive in it all, part of that feeling of sadness will be the guilt. Bear with me. That is a good thing because it shows you have a conscience, you're not as bad as "they" think you are and you accept what you did was wrong. Believe me, there are people with other convictions who still blame others/anything else but themselves. So use that feeling of guilt as fuel to move forward in a different way and as reassurance that you know how to avoid going down that route again.

A factor out of our control but can often be an unwelcome reminder is - I guess most of us don't find this out until it's too late - the systems that interfere with our daily life afterward are often too harsh long after the sentencing. In turn, they hit you in the pocket and in turn, without being too dramatic, make it difficult to survive. What is frustrating is we can't hear the stories of those people because they're not with us anymore. They're left untold and everyone carries on completely unaware it has been a very real situation. There are people on that path right now who might think all of this chaos has never happened to anyone else.

So while Khafka is right that we barely hear stories of success, with the help of this forum at the very least, WE can change that. The stories on here recently have shown that people can move forward, overcome punitive controls and find a way to carry on with the one life we have. The stories here are told from real people without the judgemental spin of what certain newspapers, for example, would put on the stories. The more that WE talk about them, our situations, even the everyday difficulties - whether it's to rant, share success or just join the conversations - the more hope that can give others.
By punter99 - 7 Jun 22 9:54 PM

It's important not to let one thing define who you are. Everyone makes mistakes, some get caught, others get away with it.

Even good people do bad things sometimes. It doesn't make them bad people. Think about some of the good things you have done in your life. The times that you helped other people, or when you did something kind for somebody. Try to remind yourself, that you are still a good person, no matter what you have done.
By JASB - 9 Jun 22 2:47 PM

punter99 - 7 Jun 22 9:54 PM
It's important not to let one thing define who you are. Everyone makes mistakes, some get caught, others get away with it.

Even good people do bad things sometimes. It doesn't make them bad people. Think about some of the good things you have done in your life. The times that you helped other people, or when you did something kind for somebody. Try to remind yourself, that you are still a good person, no matter what you have done.

Hi Punter99
I was going to provide some words but why replace yours.
Cheers
By JASB - 9 Jun 22 2:54 PM

dedalus - 7 Jun 22 10:30 AM
Hi,

How does one cope with the stain.
I have a minor conviction but I never thought I would be a criminal, can't get the thought of that entry in the PCN staying there forever oui of my mind.
I'm stained forever.
It will be spent after a year but will need to bear it in mind with VISA applications and insurances.
The sadness it causes can be unberarable.

How do you cope?

Hi
I have posted before about the "wheel of life" method. It is easy to understand, you decide where and how much effort to place on each element of your life.
If interested let me know and I will post again unless you find it by searching.

Remember to forgive yourself, be considerate to yourself, acknowledge the faults or areas in your life that distract you from the positives.
There is always someone else who "quality of life" may be suffering more than you, 
Use their determination as an inspirational source for yours
By AB2014 - 9 Jun 22 3:09 PM

JASB - 9 Jun 22 2:54 PM
dedalus - 7 Jun 22 10:30 AM
Hi,

How does one cope with the stain.
I have a minor conviction but I never thought I would be a criminal, can't get the thought of that entry in the PCN staying there forever oui of my mind.
I'm stained forever.
It will be spent after a year but will need to bear it in mind with VISA applications and insurances.
The sadness it causes can be unberarable.

How do you cope?

Hi
I have posted before about the "wheel of life" method. It is easy to understand, you decide where and how much effort to place on each element of your life.
If interested let me know and I will post again unless you find it by searching.

Remember to forgive yourself, be considerate to yourself, acknowledge the faults or areas in your life that distract you from the positives.
There is always someone else who "quality of life" may be suffering than you, 
Use their determination as an inspirational source for yours

From my memory of course work in the community, I'm guessing you're talking about this.
By JASB - 10 Jun 22 9:44 AM

AB2014 - 9 Jun 22 3:09 PM
JASB - 9 Jun 22 2:54 PM
dedalus - 7 Jun 22 10:30 AM
Hi,

How does one cope with the stain.
I have a minor conviction but I never thought I would be a criminal, can't get the thought of that entry in the PCN staying there forever oui of my mind.
I'm stained forever.
It will be spent after a year but will need to bear it in mind with VISA applications and insurances.
The sadness it causes can be unberarable.

How do you cope?

Hi
I have posted before about the "wheel of life" method. It is easy to understand, you decide where and how much effort to place on each element of your life.
If interested let me know and I will post again unless you find it by searching.

Remember to forgive yourself, be considerate to yourself, acknowledge the faults or areas in your life that distract you from the positives.
There is always someone else who "quality of life" may be suffering than you, 
Use their determination as an inspirational source for yours

From my memory of course work in the community, I'm guessing you're talking about this.

hi
Basically yes. I was given it when I attended the Better Lives course. The only course I have ever had to attend. To me it is the sort of course that could be included in schools from a certain age.
Really simple instructions so you could have the "free will" to class each segment to meet your own needs.
By dedalus - 7 Jun 22 10:30 AM

Hi,

How does one cope with the stain.
I have a minor conviction but I never thought I would be a criminal, can't get the thought of that entry in the PCN staying there forever oui of my mind.
I'm stained forever.
It will be spent after a year but will need to bear it in mind with VISA applications and insurances.
The sadness it causes can be unberarable.

How do you cope?