By punter99 - 5 Mar 25 10:11 AM
+x+xFor the full legal text of the bill, there is a pdf file here. https://bills.parliament.uk/bills/3938A couple of things regarding the issues people raised. The change about notifying in advance if you go to a house where a child might be living, will apply to anyone convicted of a child sex offence, plus anyone else on the SOR that the police choose to apply it to. So image offenders will be included automatically. On being away from home, you will have to notify all details of your travel arrangements and your accommodation details, at least 12 hours before leaving and re notify police if your plans change after you have left home. So for wild camping you will be doing lots of notifications! Hi previously when I raised this as a "discussion" they were only interested in saying "some camp sites do not let SO's stay there." Though I get that this is probably just their quick answer but the whole point with wild camping is that you are not on a "site" or residence. Its the same when I visit someone I "stay" in my camper not a residence. My assumption - though many may of already guessed this - is that is "process" will be tested as - and though a good idea - the 3 words option is an idea but for the "authorities" to state as a requirement. But then again what happens when you follow this concept and get to the location only to find "wild camping" is no longer allowed? It is the same when we go out of the country and our plans change? How do you notify of a change and ensure that it is recorded? It is hard enough getting email responses now becuase they are so undermaned! As I said I think there will be a lot of Court hearings with legal auguements so I still wonder if these changes will be amended to be only for med/high risk. Time will tell.
It would make sense to target these restrictions at the highest risk people only, and some of the legislation gives police the discretion to do that, but a lot of it does not. A point I made to Sarah Champion MP, when I wrote to her about this bill recently.
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By JASB - 19 Mar 25 8:51 AM
+x+x+xFor the full legal text of the bill, there is a pdf file here. https://bills.parliament.uk/bills/3938A couple of things regarding the issues people raised. The change about notifying in advance if you go to a house where a child might be living, will apply to anyone convicted of a child sex offence, plus anyone else on the SOR that the police choose to apply it to. So image offenders will be included automatically. On being away from home, you will have to notify all details of your travel arrangements and your accommodation details, at least 12 hours before leaving and re notify police if your plans change after you have left home. So for wild camping you will be doing lots of notifications! Hi previously when I raised this as a "discussion" they were only interested in saying "some camp sites do not let SO's stay there." Though I get that this is probably just their quick answer but the whole point with wild camping is that you are not on a "site" or residence. Its the same when I visit someone I "stay" in my camper not a residence. My assumption - though many may of already guessed this - is that is "process" will be tested as - and though a good idea - the 3 words option is an idea but for the "authorities" to state as a requirement. But then again what happens when you follow this concept and get to the location only to find "wild camping" is no longer allowed? It is the same when we go out of the country and our plans change? How do you notify of a change and ensure that it is recorded? It is hard enough getting email responses now becuase they are so undermaned! As I said I think there will be a lot of Court hearings with legal auguements so I still wonder if these changes will be amended to be only for med/high risk. Time will tell. It would make sense to target these restrictions at the highest risk people only, and some of the legislation gives police the discretion to do that, but a lot of it does not. A point I made to Sarah Champion MP, when I wrote to her about this bill recently.
I fully agree but I think we will just have to wait for the final bill and then our local OM's for their interpretation for our stress levels to possibly reduce. lol
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By punter99 - 25 Feb 25 5:26 PM
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/crime-and-policing-bill-2025-factsheets/crime-and-policing-bill-management-of-offenders-factsheet
Not exactly closing the loopholes, just making them a bit smaller. You will only be able to go on holiday for 4 days at a time in future, not 6. Stupid really, as anyone who is gaming the system can carry on gaming it, and only innocent people will be caught out.
Name changes have to be notified 7 days in advance, not within 3 days of the change taking place. Again, will only hurt innocent people who forget, not the so called 'predators'. It is not a total ban on SO changing their names, despite what the media are saying! Could be interesting as they intend to include online aliases and email address and phone numbers specifically for the first time.
Big one is notifying police in advance before going to any private residence where a child might reasonably be forseen to be present. In other words, SO have to be clairvoyants and predict where children are going to be.
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