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Why don't more SOs move to Ireland?


https://forum.unlock.org.uk/Topic36110.aspx

By Stersco83 - 26 May 26 4:16 PM

  • No UK register obligations
  • British-like culture, intertwined with British economy. London-linked work from home opportunities exist. Dublin is like an extremely chill version of London.
  • Slightly diminished Google Effect (UK stories don't cling to the top of Google the same way , I find)
  • Clean criminal record by default (ok if you say you're a British citizen they may ask for the British record but there's a chance they may not or may forget)
  • Convenient port of call for spontaneous unnotified onward travel (e.g. USA), which after many months there is not narratively suspicious in the eyes of UK police, and if it is, who cares - you're in Ireland?.
  • Can slip in and out the UK potentially without notification, although you'd be breaching the law if more than 3 days 
  • Within easy reach of all you hold dear. Even your own British family will not feel too abandoned by your move to Ireland. 
  • It's a comprehensive, civilised nation state, not a weird colony. 
Moreover....
  • Vote
  • Draw benefits and pensions
  • Live there indefinitely
Granted..
  • They allegedly have their own SOR which they expect permanent foreign residents to sign up to, but do you really need to announce this? Just by hanging around Ireland longer than usual? Also it's a very threadbare thing, not like the British one. 
It's what I'd be doing right now if I was on the SOR for life. A little cottage near the border.

Whenever I read all these stories along the lines "oh well my work coach this or that, my PPU will eventually let me do this or that" -- I just keep thinking "good God please just get out from under it, do yourself a favour, go live with your uncle in Spain, anything". Of course we don't all have uncles in Spain, but we do have Ireland.  
By JASB - 15 Jun 26 10:29 AM

Stersco83 - 10 Jun 26 12:46 PM
JASB - 9 Jun 26 10:38 AM
Stersco83 - 26 May 26 4:16 PM
  • No UK register obligations
  • British-like culture, intertwined with British economy. London-linked work from home opportunities exist. Dublin is like an extremely chill version of London.
  • Slightly diminished Google Effect (UK stories don't cling to the top of Google the same way , I find)
  • Clean criminal record by default (ok if you say you're a British citizen they may ask for the British record but there's a chance they may not or may forget)
  • Convenient port of call for spontaneous unnotified onward travel (e.g. USA), which after many months there is not narratively suspicious in the eyes of UK police, and if it is, who cares - you're in Ireland?.
  • Can slip in and out the UK potentially without notification, although you'd be breaching the law if more than 3 days 
  • Within easy reach of all you hold dear. Even your own British family will not feel too abandoned by your move to Ireland. 
  • It's a comprehensive, civilised nation state, not a weird colony. 
Moreover....
  • Vote
  • Draw benefits and pensions
  • Live there indefinitely
Granted..
  • They allegedly have their own SOR which they expect permanent foreign residents to sign up to, but do you really need to announce this? Just by hanging around Ireland longer than usual? Also it's a very threadbare thing, not like the British one. 
It's what I'd be doing right now if I was on the SOR for life. A little cottage near the border.

Whenever I read all these stories along the lines "oh well my work coach this or that, my PPU will eventually let me do this or that" -- I just keep thinking "good God please just get out from under it, do yourself a favour, go live with your uncle in Spain, anything". Of course we don't all have uncles in Spain, but we do have Ireland.  

Hi
I have dual irish british citizenship and looked into this a couple of years back and from memory it is not exactly as you say I am afriad.
First the Irish authorities would know as you would have to declare to your OM you was leaving the country, who would possibly inform them 
You are probably going to have to become / apply to become legal to work etc and then required to notify them and yes they do have a SOR

I do not think many things have changed since I last looked but please anyone thinking do your own investigation as the consequences are not worth any risk.

Yyyees but at no point did you mention a juncture at which I'm informed the Irish register exists let alone told to go on it. That's my core point. I'm British. You're Irish -- by birth or otherwise -- maybe it featured in your civics class or citizenship test -- but I assure you to a purely British mind, the existence of the Irish sex register is a piece of arcane wisdom indeed. 

I was physically in Ireland last month, as a 2nd undeclared port of call, working for my British company, from a hotel, officially unaware of any Irish register. If I was on the British Register permanently for life (I'm off it next month so no worries), I would have just stayed in Ireland until someone made me register. That's basically my point. I don't know why more people don't continue where I left off.

So yes do your own research people but also do your own thinking, and research procedures and practices, not just laws.

Add to that the possibility that the Irish Register might be less draconian that the British -- or the possibility that being on the Irish Register might take the heat off of your British life -- I thought that might at least be a discussion, the moving parts presented by Ireland. 




Hi
I appreciate your reply but the basic premise of my words is to try and ensure that individuals do research to make a valid and self protecting decision.

You may be coming off the register soon (good luck) but if your words make someone think its a way around and so conflicts with UK requirements then all I say is it worth it? What are the possible consequences?

We are all most reading this because we did not think about "consequences".