﻿<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"><channel><title>theForum » Travel » Travelling whilst on licence or serving a community order  » Does Gibraltar count as abroad?</title><generator>InstantForum 2016-2 Final</generator><description>theForum</description><link>https://forum.unlock.org.uk/</link><webMaster>theForum</webMaster><lastBuildDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2026 14:08:47 GMT</lastBuildDate><ttl>20</ttl><item><title>Does Gibraltar count as abroad?</title><link>https://forum.unlock.org.uk/FindPost24908.aspx</link><description>If travelling to Gibraltar, directly by air from London, does this count as foreign travel for SOR purposes?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;It would be a 3-day trip and I would not be entering Spain. So if it counted as within the UK, I would not normally need to notify due to it being less than a week. Though if it counts as abroad, of course I'd have no problem notifying.</description><pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2026 13:07:59 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>BenS</dc:creator></item><item><title>RE: Does Gibraltar count as abroad?</title><link>https://forum.unlock.org.uk/FindPost36013.aspx</link><description>&lt;div data-id="36002" class="if-quote-wrapper" unselectable="on" data-guid="1774958803993"&gt;&lt;a class="quote-para" unselectable="on" style="display: none;" href="#" data-id="36002" title="Move Cursor Below" contenteditable="false"&gt;&lt;span unselectable="on"&gt;+&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a class="quote-delete" unselectable="on" style="display: none;" href="#" data-id="36002" title="Delete Quote" contenteditable="false"&gt;&lt;span unselectable="on"&gt;x&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span unselectable="on" class="quote-markup"&gt;[quote]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div unselectable="on" class="if-quote-header" contenteditable="false"&gt;&lt;div unselectable="on" class="if-quote-toggle-wrapper"&gt;&lt;a class="if-quote-toggle quote-link" href="#" data-id="36002" title=" "&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span unselectable="on" class="quote-markup"&gt;[b]&lt;/span&gt;Stersco83 - 24 Mar 26 12:15 AM&lt;span unselectable="on" class="quote-markup"&gt;[/b]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="if-quote-message if-quote-message-36002"&gt;&lt;div class="if-quote-message-margin"&gt;&lt;div data-id="24908" class="if-quote-wrapper" unselectable="on" data-guid="1774958803993"&gt;&lt;a class="quote-para" unselectable="on" style="display: none;" href="#" data-id="24908" title="Move Cursor Below" contenteditable="false"&gt;&lt;span unselectable="on"&gt;+&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a class="quote-delete" unselectable="on" style="display: none;" href="#" data-id="24908" title="Delete Quote" contenteditable="false"&gt;&lt;span unselectable="on"&gt;x&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span unselectable="on" class="quote-markup"&gt;[quote]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div unselectable="on" class="if-quote-header" contenteditable="false"&gt;&lt;div unselectable="on" class="if-quote-toggle-wrapper"&gt;&lt;a class="if-quote-toggle quote-link" href="#" data-id="24908" title=" "&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span unselectable="on" class="quote-markup"&gt;[b]&lt;/span&gt;BenS - 18 Jan 18 7:55 AM&lt;span unselectable="on" class="quote-markup"&gt;[/b]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="if-quote-message if-quote-message-24908"&gt;&lt;div class="if-quote-message-margin"&gt;If travelling to Gibraltar, directly by air from London, does this count as foreign travel for SOR purposes?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;It would be a 3-day trip and I would not be entering Spain. So if it counted as within the UK, I would not normally need to notify due to it being less than a week. Though if it counts as abroad, of course I'd have no problem notifying.&lt;a class="if-quote-goto quote-link" href="#" data-id="24908"&gt;&lt;span class="goto"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span class="quote-markup"&gt;[/quote]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The upside is, it's one place on Earth of which you are a citizen where the SOR doesn't apply.&amp;nbsp;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;a class="if-quote-goto quote-link" href="#" data-id="36002"&gt;&lt;span class="goto"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span class="quote-markup"&gt;[/quote]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Actually, since a few months ago British people wanting to live there have to get residency and that includes a criminal background check. So you wouldn't get it approved. This is due to the new agreement with the Spanish.</description><pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2026 13:07:59 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>expatofff</dc:creator></item><item><title>RE: Does Gibraltar count as abroad?</title><link>https://forum.unlock.org.uk/FindPost36002.aspx</link><description>&lt;div data-id="24908" class="if-quote-wrapper" unselectable="on" data-guid="1774311157857"&gt;&lt;a class="quote-para" unselectable="on" style="display: none;" href="#" data-id="24908" title="Move Cursor Below" contenteditable="false"&gt;&lt;span unselectable="on"&gt;+&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a class="quote-delete" unselectable="on" style="display: none;" href="#" data-id="24908" title="Delete Quote" contenteditable="false"&gt;&lt;span unselectable="on"&gt;x&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span unselectable="on" class="quote-markup"&gt;[quote]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div unselectable="on" class="if-quote-header" contenteditable="false"&gt;&lt;div unselectable="on" class="if-quote-toggle-wrapper"&gt;&lt;a class="if-quote-toggle quote-link" href="#" data-id="24908" title=" "&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span unselectable="on" class="quote-markup"&gt;[b]&lt;/span&gt;BenS - 18 Jan 18 7:55 AM&lt;span unselectable="on" class="quote-markup"&gt;[/b]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="if-quote-message if-quote-message-24908"&gt;&lt;div class="if-quote-message-margin"&gt;If travelling to Gibraltar, directly by air from London, does this count as foreign travel for SOR purposes?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;It would be a 3-day trip and I would not be entering Spain. So if it counted as within the UK, I would not normally need to notify due to it being less than a week. Though if it counts as abroad, of course I'd have no problem notifying.&lt;a class="if-quote-goto quote-link" href="#" data-id="24908"&gt;&lt;span class="goto"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span class="quote-markup"&gt;[/quote]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The upside is, it's one place on Earth of which you are a citizen where the SOR doesn't apply.&amp;nbsp;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;</description><pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2026 00:15:52 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>Stersco83</dc:creator></item><item><title>RE: Does Gibraltar count as abroad?</title><link>https://forum.unlock.org.uk/FindPost24914.aspx</link><description>&lt;div data-id="24913" class="if-quote-wrapper" unselectable="on" data-guid="1516445605253"&gt;&lt;a class="quote-para" unselectable="on" style="display: none;" href="#" data-id="24913" title="Move Cursor Below" contenteditable="false"&gt;&lt;span unselectable="on"&gt;+&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a class="quote-delete" unselectable="on" style="display: none;" href="#" data-id="24913" title="Delete Quote" contenteditable="false"&gt;&lt;span unselectable="on"&gt;x&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span unselectable="on" class="quote-markup"&gt;[quote]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div unselectable="on" class="if-quote-header" contenteditable="false"&gt;&lt;div unselectable="on" class="if-quote-toggle-wrapper"&gt;&lt;a class="if-quote-toggle quote-link" href="#" data-id="24913" title=" "&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span unselectable="on" class="quote-markup"&gt;[b]&lt;/span&gt;Yankee - 19 Jan 18 11:27 AM&lt;span unselectable="on" class="quote-markup"&gt;[/b]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="if-quote-message if-quote-message-24913"&gt;&lt;div class="if-quote-message-margin"&gt;&lt;div data-id="24908" class="if-quote-wrapper" unselectable="on" data-guid="1516445605253"&gt;&lt;a class="quote-para" unselectable="on" style="display: none;" href="#" data-id="24908" title="Move Cursor Below" contenteditable="false"&gt;&lt;span unselectable="on"&gt;+&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a class="quote-delete" unselectable="on" style="display: none;" href="#" data-id="24908" title="Delete Quote" contenteditable="false"&gt;&lt;span unselectable="on"&gt;x&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span unselectable="on" class="quote-markup"&gt;[quote]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div unselectable="on" class="if-quote-header" contenteditable="false"&gt;&lt;div unselectable="on" class="if-quote-toggle-wrapper"&gt;&lt;a class="if-quote-toggle quote-link" href="#" data-id="24908" title=" "&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span unselectable="on" class="quote-markup"&gt;[b]&lt;/span&gt;BenS - 18 Jan 18 7:55 AM&lt;span unselectable="on" class="quote-markup"&gt;[/b]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="if-quote-message if-quote-message-24908"&gt;&lt;div class="if-quote-message-margin"&gt;If travelling to Gibraltar, directly by air from London, does this count as foreign travel for SOR purposes?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;It would be a 3-day trip and I would not be entering Spain. So if it counted as within the UK, I would not normally need to notify due to it being less than a week. Though if it counts as abroad, of course I'd have no problem notifying.&lt;a class="if-quote-goto quote-link" href="#" data-id="24908"&gt;&lt;span class="goto"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span class="quote-markup"&gt;[/quote]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Gibraltar is a British Overseas Territory (like Bermuda, the Falklands etc.) and is not part of the UK.&amp;nbsp; You will have to notify as the Act refers to all travel outside the United Kingdom.&lt;br/&gt;As an aside, legally according to the Act you would have to notify trips to the Channel Islands and the IOM (which are crown dependencies and not part of the UK) - however, flights and ferries are classed as domestic and there are no immigration controls - I don't know what the PPU do in that case, but I always work on the basis that it's better to notify even if you didn't have to than find out later on you should have and give the PPU a reason to cause trouble.&lt;a class="if-quote-goto quote-link" href="#" data-id="24913"&gt;&lt;span class="goto"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span class="quote-markup"&gt;[/quote]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br/&gt;That's useful, thank you, and I agree with not giving them any reason to accuse you of being difficult and giving them a reason to refuse to get the order revoked in future.</description><pubDate>Sat, 20 Jan 2018 10:53:45 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>BenS</dc:creator></item><item><title>RE: Does Gibraltar count as abroad?</title><link>https://forum.unlock.org.uk/FindPost24913.aspx</link><description>&lt;div data-id="24908" class="if-quote-wrapper" unselectable="on" data-guid="1516360722749"&gt;&lt;a class="quote-para" unselectable="on" style="display: none;" href="#" data-id="24908" title="Move Cursor Below" contenteditable="false"&gt;&lt;span unselectable="on"&gt;+&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a class="quote-delete" unselectable="on" style="display: none;" href="#" data-id="24908" title="Delete Quote" contenteditable="false"&gt;&lt;span unselectable="on"&gt;x&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span unselectable="on" class="quote-markup"&gt;[quote]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div unselectable="on" class="if-quote-header" contenteditable="false"&gt;&lt;div unselectable="on" class="if-quote-toggle-wrapper"&gt;&lt;a class="if-quote-toggle quote-link" href="#" data-id="24908" title=" "&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span unselectable="on" class="quote-markup"&gt;[b]&lt;/span&gt;BenS - 18 Jan 18 7:55 AM&lt;span unselectable="on" class="quote-markup"&gt;[/b]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="if-quote-message if-quote-message-24908"&gt;&lt;div class="if-quote-message-margin"&gt;If travelling to Gibraltar, directly by air from London, does this count as foreign travel for SOR purposes?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;It would be a 3-day trip and I would not be entering Spain. So if it counted as within the UK, I would not normally need to notify due to it being less than a week. Though if it counts as abroad, of course I'd have no problem notifying.&lt;a class="if-quote-goto quote-link" href="#" data-id="24908"&gt;&lt;span class="goto"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span class="quote-markup"&gt;[/quote]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Gibraltar is a British Overseas Territory (like Bermuda, the Falklands etc.) and is not part of the UK.&amp;nbsp; You will have to notify as the Act refers to all travel outside the United Kingdom.&lt;br/&gt;As an aside, legally according to the Act you would have to notify trips to the Channel Islands and the IOM (which are crown dependencies and not part of the UK) - however, flights and ferries are classed as domestic and there are no immigration controls - I don't know what the PPU do in that case, but I always work on the basis that it's better to notify even if you didn't have to than find out later on you should have and give the PPU a reason to cause trouble.</description><pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2018 11:27:12 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>Yankee</dc:creator></item><item><title>RE: Does Gibraltar count as abroad?</title><link>https://forum.unlock.org.uk/FindPost24910.aspx</link><description>&lt;div data-id="24909" class="if-quote-wrapper" unselectable="on" data-guid="1516274485460"&gt;&lt;a class="quote-para" unselectable="on" style="display: none;" href="#" data-id="24909" title="Move Cursor Below" contenteditable="false"&gt;&lt;span unselectable="on"&gt;+&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a class="quote-delete" unselectable="on" style="display: none;" href="#" data-id="24909" title="Delete Quote" contenteditable="false"&gt;&lt;span unselectable="on"&gt;x&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span unselectable="on" class="quote-markup"&gt;[quote]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div unselectable="on" class="if-quote-header" contenteditable="false"&gt;&lt;div unselectable="on" class="if-quote-toggle-wrapper"&gt;&lt;a class="if-quote-toggle quote-link" href="#" data-id="24909" title=" "&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span unselectable="on" class="quote-markup"&gt;[b]&lt;/span&gt;AB2014 - 18 Jan 18 10:25 AM&lt;span unselectable="on" class="quote-markup"&gt;[/b]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="if-quote-message if-quote-message-24909"&gt;&lt;div class="if-quote-message-margin"&gt;&lt;div data-id="24908" class="if-quote-wrapper" unselectable="on" data-guid="1516274485460"&gt;&lt;a class="quote-para" unselectable="on" style="display: none;" href="#" data-id="24908" title="Move Cursor Below" contenteditable="false"&gt;&lt;span unselectable="on"&gt;+&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a class="quote-delete" unselectable="on" style="display: none;" href="#" data-id="24908" title="Delete Quote" contenteditable="false"&gt;&lt;span unselectable="on"&gt;x&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span unselectable="on" class="quote-markup"&gt;[quote]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div unselectable="on" class="if-quote-header" contenteditable="false"&gt;&lt;div unselectable="on" class="if-quote-toggle-wrapper"&gt;&lt;a class="if-quote-toggle quote-link" href="#" data-id="24908" title=" "&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span unselectable="on" class="quote-markup"&gt;[b]&lt;/span&gt;BenS - 18 Jan 18 7:55 AM&lt;span unselectable="on" class="quote-markup"&gt;[/b]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="if-quote-message if-quote-message-24908"&gt;&lt;div class="if-quote-message-margin"&gt;If travelling to Gibraltar, directly by air from London, does this count as foreign travel for SOR purposes?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;It would be a 3-day trip and I would not be entering Spain. So if it counted as within the UK, I would not normally need to notify due to it being less than a week. Though if it counts as abroad, of course I'd have no problem notifying.&lt;a class="if-quote-goto quote-link" href="#" data-id="24908"&gt;&lt;span class="goto"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span class="quote-markup"&gt;[/quote]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br/&gt;According to Unlock's information &lt;a href="https://hub.unlock.org.uk/knowledgebase/travelling-licence/"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; on travelling abroad on licence, the UK is "England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland. The Channel Islands includes Jersey and Guernsey. Added to the Isle of Man, these represent three Crown Dependencies." I realise it's not the same law, but they seem to be relying on an accepted definition of the UK. I suppose the best advice would be to ask the police, as they enforce SOR restrictions.&lt;a class="if-quote-goto quote-link" href="#" data-id="24909"&gt;&lt;span class="goto"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span class="quote-markup"&gt;[/quote]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Thank you for the info!</description><pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2018 11:21:23 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>BenS</dc:creator></item><item><title>RE: Does Gibraltar count as abroad?</title><link>https://forum.unlock.org.uk/FindPost24909.aspx</link><description>&lt;div data-id="24908" class="if-quote-wrapper" unselectable="on" data-guid="1516270722356"&gt;&lt;a class="quote-para" unselectable="on" style="display: none;" href="#" data-id="24908" title="Move Cursor Below" contenteditable="false"&gt;&lt;span unselectable="on"&gt;+&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a class="quote-delete" unselectable="on" style="display: none;" href="#" data-id="24908" title="Delete Quote" contenteditable="false"&gt;&lt;span unselectable="on"&gt;x&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span unselectable="on" class="quote-markup"&gt;[quote]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div unselectable="on" class="if-quote-header" contenteditable="false"&gt;&lt;div unselectable="on" class="if-quote-toggle-wrapper"&gt;&lt;a class="if-quote-toggle quote-link" href="#" data-id="24908" title=" "&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span unselectable="on" class="quote-markup"&gt;[b]&lt;/span&gt;BenS - 18 Jan 18 7:55 AM&lt;span unselectable="on" class="quote-markup"&gt;[/b]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="if-quote-message if-quote-message-24908"&gt;&lt;div class="if-quote-message-margin"&gt;If travelling to Gibraltar, directly by air from London, does this count as foreign travel for SOR purposes?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;It would be a 3-day trip and I would not be entering Spain. So if it counted as within the UK, I would not normally need to notify due to it being less than a week. Though if it counts as abroad, of course I'd have no problem notifying.&lt;a class="if-quote-goto quote-link" href="#" data-id="24908"&gt;&lt;span class="goto"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span class="quote-markup"&gt;[/quote]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br/&gt;According to Unlock's information &lt;a href="https://hub.unlock.org.uk/knowledgebase/travelling-licence/"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; on travelling abroad on licence, the UK is "England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland. The Channel Islands includes Jersey and Guernsey. Added to the Isle of Man, these represent three Crown Dependencies." I realise it's not the same law, but they seem to be relying on an accepted definition of the UK. I suppose the best advice would be to ask the police, as they enforce SOR restrictions.</description><pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2018 10:25:38 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>AB2014</dc:creator></item></channel></rss>