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Sex Offenders Annual Registration Help

Mark15788 — Tue, 17 Jan 2023 12:04:35 GMT

Morning,

I was convicted April 2018 and then went on to my annual registration in April 2019.

In December 2019 because of my SHPO I also reported a new device, my police force just record this on the usual registration form.

I then thought my annual registration would be April 2020 but I’m told the date would of restarted in December so it’s December 2020.

Is this correct?

I asked for verification from my risk management officer and he confirmed over text that it was December 2020.

My probation officer said it might be best to speak direct to the team in the police so I rang 101 and they transferee next to someone who said they were too busy right now to go by whatever the correspondence (text) said.

Just has me slightly worried now.

RE: Sex Offenders Annual Registration Help

JASB — Tue, 17 Jan 2023 12:04:35 GMT

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[b]Lineofduty - 16 Jan 23 4:09 PM[/b]

Just a link to the updated information on Guidance on Part 2 of the SexualOffences Act 2003 dated November 2022. Will help to clarify many queries on this thread and others.

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Lineofduty — Mon, 16 Jan 2023 16:09:36 GMT

Just a link to the updated information on Guidance on Part 2 of the SexualOffences Act 2003 dated November 2022. Will help to clarify many queries on this thread and others.

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khafka — Fri, 16 Jul 2021 11:24:58 GMT

When I did my first ever registration I never gave usernames but then a few weeks later on my first visit by PPU they advised they needed them and the relevant website. I'm not sure about the rest of you but I have loads of registrations on various websites, forums, etc. a lot I can't even remember but would put me technically in breach if I didn't hand it over. But if I don't remember the login, I don't remember the website then I'm not sure what else I'm expected to do.

So in the end I went along the following day with 2 x A4 sheets of paper written front and back with all the usernames and websites I could remember in a list, like "Khafka - Unlock - forum.unlock.org.uk". Bit of malicious compliance but hey-ho.

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Mark15788 — Thu, 15 Jul 2021 21:10:10 GMT

Which is why I’ve constantly got everything in writing now, so if anyone comes along and says you didn’t do X or you haven’t done Y and I have something in writing telling me I do don’t need to or something was interpreted in another way, surely that’s my evidence? I hope and prey I never need to use any of this documentation but you never know.

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Simon1983 — Thu, 15 Jul 2021 18:45:49 GMT

Sorry i had to post in three parts there

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Simon1983 — Thu, 15 Jul 2021 18:45:19 GMT

The other confusion is the resetting of the clock for notification, it is only changes that come under section 84 that reset the clock, yet there are PPU officers that due to confusion will reset the clock if you tell them about travel overseas, travel overseas is covered by section 86 SOR 2003 you would hope that PPU officers have nothing to do other than supervise offenders you would think that they would all be on the same hymn sheet when it come to the rules, its not the biggest document to read, that my moan for the evening

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Simon1983 — Thu, 15 Jul 2021 18:43:12 GMT

The above document was published in 2018 and under the notification section states the phrase online user names in brackets, if you then look at section 83 and 84 of the SOA 2003 it makes no reference to online names, only reference to legal name you are known by, one would argue that an online user name is not your legal name. (Open for discussion) this is why some PPU officers think they can ask and some believe they cant. The Act is the law, a guide is not law.

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Simon1983 — Thu, 15 Jul 2021 18:42:28 GMT

Total agree it is the point i make all the time how we are all told different things we are left wide open in the eyes of the law. As somebody that is studying law at the moment i have spent time trying to see where some of this confusion stems from and my initial thoughts are that this document is the cause and the changes that came about in 2012
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/755142/11.18guidanceonpart2ofthesexualoffencesact2003.pdf

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punter99 — Thu, 15 Jul 2021 17:12:21 GMT

You may not be asked directly for usernames. But in the notification rules it talks about any "other names you are known by". It doesn't say specifically whether this includes names you are only known by online, such as usernames, email addresses etc. But when I discussed it with my second PPU, their interpretation of this wording is that it does include usernames. The first PPU never mentioned this to me at all, so I could well have been in breach of the law for ages, without knowing it.

So it will depend on how your individual PPU interprets the meaning of the phrase "other names you are known by".

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Mark15788 — Thu, 15 Jul 2021 17:03:53 GMT

I’ve never been asked for usernames for sites, logins, etc, they would be there all day recording them all.

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punter99 — Thu, 15 Jul 2021 16:37:39 GMT

On the question of what info you have to give the PPU. I was told that any usernames must be disclosed, as notification rules include disclosing "any other name you are known by". It doesn't matter whether the SHPO mentions usernames or not.

Also my SHPO includes a catch all clause which says I must not refuse to disclose any details of my "internet activity". So vaguely worded, it can mean anything the PPU wants it to. By writing it as a negative requirement - 'must not refuse' - they can get around the current restrictions on not requiring positive actions. This is very common in SHPOs. Must not refuse to allow the PPU to inspect your devices, for example, is a positive action, disguised as a negative.

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Mark15788 — Thu, 15 Jul 2021 08:01:30 GMT

I got a new officer in March as I moved homes, same force area just new locality area. He seems more clued up than anyone else I’ve dealt with. I wish you luck too, I know it seems a while away but I’m sure you will get there soon enough and it will all work out.

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Simon1983 — Wed, 14 Jul 2021 23:10:19 GMT

Wish you all the best, I have till jan 2025 till I can apply to come off, been on in since my release in jan 2010 (3 yrs sentence images only ) have not herd from my PPU officer in close to three years and the last home visit was about that as well, I look forward to the fun and games in 2025 as the Met police don’t make it easy

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Mark15788 — Wed, 14 Jul 2021 20:38:47 GMT

That should read date & time.

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Mark15788 — Wed, 14 Jul 2021 20:37:54 GMT

Ive started to learn to query everything, get it in writing and save it all, I was also advised by a solicitor and I don’t know how much it will really help but to write a record of every visit, what was asked, mentioned and said to the best of my ability, add date and fine and who was present and keep that too. I have 1 year and 9 months left and I can’t wait to have it all end.

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Simon1983 — Wed, 14 Jul 2021 20:33:21 GMT

It gets more stupid as time goes on, each force does its own thing and we are in the middle, yet it will be us up in front of the judge when it goes wrong. One of the biggest bugbears i have is how different forces interpret the resetting of the clock when it comes to notification some of the Horror stories i have seen on here in past posts over the years.

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Mr W — Wed, 14 Jul 2021 17:25:33 GMT

Well, this is hilarious and why I get so frustrated with my current force. Re: Facebook and passwords… Force A said: “What’s your password for Facebook, you don’t have to give it if you don’t want to,” which was kind of him and he almost laughed it off, and obviously I said I don’t want to give it and there was no issue at all.

Then moved house, Force B: “Why are you on Facebook… T&Cs blah blah… “ deleted it off my phone and threatened to get in touch with Facebook. I actually rang Force A and explained what had happened, they said that’s wrong. So I said to force B you can’t do that, I put it back on my phone and they haven’t said anything since.

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Mark15788 — Wed, 14 Jul 2021 10:58:06 GMT

I’ve been asked before what my email address is but it’s not a requirement that’s mentioned but I have never been asked for passwords. I’ve never actually been asked specifically with regards to social media. I’m not on anything anyway. Although FB was mentioned once because i know it’s in their terms of use/conditions that convicted sex offenders can’t use the site, so really anyone with a SO shouldn’t be. However, terms of use/conditions surely isn’t law, so therefore if you chose to use it, the police couldn’t prosecute? As for other social media platforms I have no idea what there terms of use or conditions state.

RE: Sex Offenders Annual Registration Help

Simon1983 — Wed, 14 Jul 2021 09:28:25 GMT

Sure here you go
https://bills.parliament.uk/publications/42132/documents/484#page164
this is the bill as has been passed by the House of Commons and is now in the lords for approval, the loads have made it know that they will not be making any major amendments, the section you want to look at is Claus 149 and it states
A sexual harm prevention order may— 10
(a) prohibit the offender from doing anything described in
the order;
(b) require the offender to do anything described in the
They are using this new bill to clamp down on a person convicted of a sex offence