﻿<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"><channel><title>theForum » General Information » Current affairs and general news  » Homicide prediction project</title><generator>InstantForum 2016-2 Final</generator><description>theForum</description><link>https://forum.unlock.org.uk/</link><webMaster>theForum</webMaster><lastBuildDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2026 09:22:28 GMT</lastBuildDate><ttl>20</ttl><item><title>Homicide prediction project</title><link>https://forum.unlock.org.uk/FindPost35349.aspx</link><description>This story is in the news, mainly because it involves AI and that is seen as some kind of miraculous solution to lots of problems.&lt;br/&gt;In reality though, it is just another risk assessment tool and the only thing different about it is that a machine, rather than a probation officer, is totting up the persons score, to decide if they can be released from prison for example.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;However, I wonder if this tool might be used for other things. Such as deciding who to put on the police watchlist, when doing their facial recognition fishing expeditions, in the local high street. We know that SO can be harassed now, just for walking down the street, and the criteria for the homicide prediction project include health markers like mental illness. So anybody with both a conviction and a mental health issue, could potentially be on the list to be stopped and questioned "just in case".</description><pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2025 09:06:44 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>punter99</dc:creator></item><item><title>RE: Homicide prediction project</title><link>https://forum.unlock.org.uk/FindPost35367.aspx</link><description>&lt;div data-id="35358" class="if-quote-wrapper" unselectable="on" data-guid="1744704336846"&gt;&lt;a class="quote-para" unselectable="on" style="display: none;" href="#" data-id="35358" title="Move Cursor Below" contenteditable="false"&gt;&lt;span unselectable="on"&gt;+&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a class="quote-delete" unselectable="on" style="display: none;" href="#" data-id="35358" title="Delete Quote" contenteditable="false"&gt;&lt;span unselectable="on"&gt;x&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span unselectable="on" class="quote-markup"&gt;[quote]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div unselectable="on" class="if-quote-header" contenteditable="false"&gt;&lt;div unselectable="on" class="if-quote-toggle-wrapper"&gt;&lt;a class="if-quote-toggle quote-link" href="#" data-id="35358" title=" "&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span unselectable="on" class="quote-markup"&gt;[b]&lt;/span&gt;JASB - 13 Apr 25 3:17 PM&lt;span unselectable="on" class="quote-markup"&gt;[/b]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="if-quote-message if-quote-message-35358"&gt;&lt;div class="if-quote-message-margin"&gt;&lt;div data-id="35349" class="if-quote-wrapper" unselectable="on" data-guid="1744704336846"&gt;&lt;a class="quote-para" unselectable="on" style="display: none;" href="#" data-id="35349" title="Move Cursor Below" contenteditable="false"&gt;&lt;span unselectable="on"&gt;+&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a class="quote-delete" unselectable="on" style="display: none;" href="#" data-id="35349" title="Delete Quote" contenteditable="false"&gt;&lt;span unselectable="on"&gt;x&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span unselectable="on" class="quote-markup"&gt;[quote]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div unselectable="on" class="if-quote-header" contenteditable="false"&gt;&lt;div unselectable="on" class="if-quote-toggle-wrapper"&gt;&lt;a class="if-quote-toggle quote-link" href="#" data-id="35349" title=" "&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span unselectable="on" class="quote-markup"&gt;[b]&lt;/span&gt;punter99 - 10 Apr 25 11:43 AM&lt;span unselectable="on" class="quote-markup"&gt;[/b]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="if-quote-message if-quote-message-35349"&gt;&lt;div class="if-quote-message-margin"&gt;This story is in the news, mainly because it involves AI and that is seen as some kind of miraculous solution to lots of problems.&lt;br/&gt;In reality though, it is just another risk assessment tool and the only thing different about it is that a machine, rather than a probation officer, is totting up the persons score, to decide if they can be released from prison for example.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;However, I wonder if this tool might be used for other things. Such as deciding who to put on the police watchlist, when doing their facial recognition fishing expeditions, in the local high street. We know that SO can be harassed now, just for walking down the street, and the criteria for the homicide prediction project include health markers like mental illness. So anybody with both a conviction and a mental health issue, could potentially be on the list to be stopped and questioned "just in case".&lt;a class="if-quote-goto quote-link" href="#" data-id="35349"&gt;&lt;span class="goto"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span class="quote-markup"&gt;[/quote]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Interesting topic but I am linking it to the Hollywood film with Tom Cruise where they had 3 females supposed to be able and so stop crimes. that turned out to not work.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Though I would not like to see it in place I could easily see certain "authorities" going for it as a vote winner.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;However the practicability of it would require so many resources by the Police I could see some private company - GS4 or Google taking it on lol&lt;a class="if-quote-goto quote-link" href="#" data-id="35358"&gt;&lt;span class="goto"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span class="quote-markup"&gt;[/quote]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Well, if Serco could bill probation for tags they never fitted (including to at least one person who had died), I'm sure they could bill the police for people who weren't actually going to commit a crime. It would certainly help their profitability.</description><pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2025 09:06:44 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>AB2014</dc:creator></item><item><title>RE: Homicide prediction project</title><link>https://forum.unlock.org.uk/FindPost35358.aspx</link><description>&lt;div data-id="35349" class="if-quote-wrapper" unselectable="on" data-guid="1744553511772"&gt;&lt;a class="quote-para" unselectable="on" style="display: none;" href="#" data-id="35349" title="Move Cursor Below" contenteditable="false"&gt;&lt;span unselectable="on"&gt;+&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a class="quote-delete" unselectable="on" style="display: none;" href="#" data-id="35349" title="Delete Quote" contenteditable="false"&gt;&lt;span unselectable="on"&gt;x&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span unselectable="on" class="quote-markup"&gt;[quote]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div unselectable="on" class="if-quote-header" contenteditable="false"&gt;&lt;div unselectable="on" class="if-quote-toggle-wrapper"&gt;&lt;a class="if-quote-toggle quote-link" href="#" data-id="35349" title=" "&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span unselectable="on" class="quote-markup"&gt;[b]&lt;/span&gt;punter99 - 10 Apr 25 11:43 AM&lt;span unselectable="on" class="quote-markup"&gt;[/b]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="if-quote-message if-quote-message-35349"&gt;&lt;div class="if-quote-message-margin"&gt;This story is in the news, mainly because it involves AI and that is seen as some kind of miraculous solution to lots of problems.&lt;br/&gt;In reality though, it is just another risk assessment tool and the only thing different about it is that a machine, rather than a probation officer, is totting up the persons score, to decide if they can be released from prison for example.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;However, I wonder if this tool might be used for other things. Such as deciding who to put on the police watchlist, when doing their facial recognition fishing expeditions, in the local high street. We know that SO can be harassed now, just for walking down the street, and the criteria for the homicide prediction project include health markers like mental illness. So anybody with both a conviction and a mental health issue, could potentially be on the list to be stopped and questioned "just in case".&lt;a class="if-quote-goto quote-link" href="#" data-id="35349"&gt;&lt;span class="goto"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span class="quote-markup"&gt;[/quote]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Interesting topic but I am linking it to the Hollywood film with Tom Cruise where they had 3 females supposed to be able and so stop crimes. that turned out to not work.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Though I would not like to see it in place I could easily see certain "authorities" going for it as a vote winner.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;However the practicability of it would require so many resources by the Police I could see some private company - GS4 or Google taking it on lol</description><pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2025 15:17:27 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>JASB</dc:creator></item></channel></rss>