By Gossi - 4 Feb 15 4:07 PM
Hello all,
New to the forum here and first post.
I have recently applied for and received my basic disclosure (only took 2 days!) to double check that my convictions are indeed spent, the positive news was that they were and the basic disclosure was clear.
My question....are the basic disclosures commonly used by employers as as check and is there a list of what employers actually use these instead of the standard ones. Understand that it will really depend on the position and authority held but thought do ask to see if there was any real clarity.
Best wishes to all
G
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By Deb S - 16 Sep 11 1:36 PM
Hi Gossi
Welcome to the Forum.
Any employer can apply for a basic criminal record check for any job.
Standard Disclosure and Barring Service Checks are not particularly common and are generally used for people working in security and roles which are covered by a regulated body - i.e. finance jobs.
The highest level checks, enhanced are generally applicable for jobs that involve working with children and vulnerable adults. Both standard and enhanced checks will disclose both spent and unspent convictions.
Now that your conviction is spent, it is important that you know which level of check an employer will undertake. Before you give your agreement to any check, make sure that the job you are applying for is eligible for the level of check that's being done.
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By Gossi - 4 Feb 15 4:07 PM
Thank you Deb, much appreciated for the clarity.
I've searched the forum but is there a lost of employers who do the basic checks, I've seen on one thread that Morrisons do basics and assuming other supermarkets are the same...just wondered if there was a list of employers or people with experience of these basic checks
Many thanks again for your answer and best of luck to all
G
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By Deb S - 16 Sep 11 1:36 PM
Hi Gossi
There isn't a list of employers that do basic checks as it would probably run into thousands of pages. Any company is entitled to do a basic check and many do. A lot of them will make this clear on the application form, some will wait until the interview stage.
There has been quite a lot of publicity about Morrisons but not all do basic checks. Sainsbury's for example only do basic criminal record checks on it's on-line drivers but don't do them on any other member of staff.
Hope this helps.
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By Gossi - 4 Feb 15 4:07 PM
Thanks again Deb, info much appreciated and welcome.
Good luck to all on the forum, it's an excellent resource for all in difficult situations.
G
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By Gossi - 4 Feb 15 4:07 PM
Could anyone shed any light on what the below means as in what kind of check they will do, or whether I have to disclose my spent conviction?
It's from an app for a job I'm about to apply for.
The Rehabilitation of Offenders Act 1974 enables some criminal convictions to become spent or ignored, after a ‘rehabilitation period’. Excepted posts are those to which the Rehabilitation of Offenders Act 1974 (Exceptions) Order 1975 applies. You may be entitled to withhold information about convictions that are ‘spent’ under the provision of the act. In the event of employment, any failure to disclose could result in dismissal or disciplinary action by your employer. If selected for interview you will be required to complete a criminal convictions declaration form that will only be reviewed if an offer of employment is being made.
Thanks all
G
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By Victor H - 15 Dec 13 7:37 PM
By the way Morrisons news article is incorrect they do NOT run dbs checks on staff only the basic standard or basic Scotland back ground check as it is for all supermarkets I believe.
A list would be quite hard to do or manage but yeah would solve many issues if people knew which employer runs which type of check this way we would not waste hours or time getting hopes up etc.
But the general jist of it is if its a job role working directly with children or elderly then a dbs check is done which shows ALL.
Doctors
Nurses
Carers
Dentist
Teachers
Financial services -ie banks or where large amounts of money, responsibility etc.
Offices, Warehouses, retail, shops, supermarkets even charities on the high street they should only be allowed to run basic Scotland checks. Also to note the "google effect" make sure hopefully your past is not advertised on newspapers or internet articles, many companies do a google check with your name to see any dirt to misuse against you.
In regards to your question above not sure actually, sounds like they may ask for a basic scotland check or they may ask for a dbs check- again if you think the job position is not any on the small list I said above you can contact dbs and dispute it or not fill that form in tell your boss to be you need to check with dbs offices if its ok, if they find that funny perhaps suggest you had an issue with dbs last time.... remember the dbs check comes back to your home address only.
What job role type is it anyhow?
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By Gossi - 4 Feb 15 4:07 PM
Cheers fella.
It's a retail job for a bike organisation, charity but not for vulnerable people or kids, more to do with getting folk to cycle....!
G
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By The Stig - 11 Mar 11 6:26 PM
Don't worry the D.B.S Scotland will be on the FTSE 100 soon then they can show off there yearly profits with employers illegal checks.
We all accept our crimes but should we be punished more for it?
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By Deb S - 16 Sep 11 1:36 PM
Hi Gossi
Many employers have some roles in their organisation which are covered by the Rehabilitation of Offenders Act and some which are exempt. They will often use the same application form for both which can cause a huge amount of confusion as you really don't know what you should be disclosing and what you shouldn't.
I would expect a retail role of this nature to be covered by the Act and you would only need to disclose 'unspent' convictions.
Hope this helps and good luck.
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By Gossi - 4 Feb 15 4:07 PM
Thanks all for the replies, much appreciated
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By Victor H - 15 Dec 13 7:37 PM
I know people that gone for oxfam and Aid/charity shops and nadda done not even the basic scotland check, guess its seen as retail shop roles.
Guess like most sometimes just gotta go for it and if anything remotely "dbs" pops up one can leg it, just be aware if you sign that dbs form and vanish they company can ask for for the money for the check !
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