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Rehabilitation of Offenders (Scotland)


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By Square - 23 Feb 18 3:34 PM

There was an interesting report on th BBC website today regarding proposed changes to ROA in Scotland today. (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-43153462) .
To sumarise:
- More use tof tags over prison
- Tags will be upgraded to GPS technology
- Changes to disclosure periods:
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/1180E/production/_100149617_capture.jpg

Whilst I really do think this is a positive step forward (and all the more remarkable considering current hysteria regarding people with convictions) I still feel the biggest issue is with regards to Standard disclosure checks. I understand that there are certain jobs where certain convictions must be made clear regardless of age or disposal, however, these surely only be disclosed where an employer can justify their disclosure and not as a matter of course?

I wonder when people will realise that giving people a worth-while meaningful life reduces the likelihood of reoffending massively? 
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Square - 23 Feb 18 3:34 PM
There was an interesting report on th BBC website today regarding proposed changes to ROA in Scotland today. (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-43153462) .
To sumarise:
- More use tof tags over prison
- Tags will be upgraded to GPS technology
- Changes to disclosure periods:
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/1180E/production/_100149617_capture.jpg

Whilst I really do think this is a positive step forward (and all the more remarkable considering current hysteria regarding people with convictions) I still feel the biggest issue is with regards to Standard disclosure checks. I understand that there are certain jobs where certain convictions must be made clear regardless of age or disposal, however, these surely only be disclosed where an employer can justify their disclosure and not as a matter of course?

I wonder when people will realise that giving people a worth-while meaningful life reduces the likelihood of reoffending massively? 

What happens now to my 18 month custodial sentence passed in Scotland...if I'm in England?

Once you're in England, English law applies. An 18 month custodial sentence would become spent 4 years after the Sentence End Date.

I thought it was 5 years? So my  18 month Scottish custodial sentence (parole and all)  ended in November 2017. My record expires in November 2021?


Ive actually always wondered about this. I was sentenced in an English court (lived there at the time) but now reside in Scotland. So do I fall under the Scottish or English guidelines?

If the job is based in Scotland, the check will be processed under Scottish law by Disclosure Scotland.  If the job is based in England, it will be processed under English law by the DBS.

Can I apply for an English check from a Scottish address? Just for my curiosity purposes?

Edit: Also have any of the above changes taken place yet? If so, it ends my criminal record within months.

I don't see why you couldn't apply for an English check from a Scottish address. After all, you'd be paying £25 for it, so they wouldn't be doing it for nothing. Changes have been made in Scotland recently. I can't find any news reports, but you can see the law here.

I heard the law was passed in June of this year, but I don't know if it includes the proposed expiry dates.


You can see the relevant details of the law here. For sentences given by the armed forces, the details are here.

Does anyone have a secondary source verifying this? I know this is supposedly from the horse's mouth but it seems to have made no waves. Is there for example a news article reiterating that this has gone through?

I'd like to know this too.

If I'm reading this correctly. If you get a community payback order for example. You'd only have to disclose up to 1 year maximum and then you don't have to. As opposed to the original 5 years. That correct?

Well, there's an article here, if that helps. I'm surprised anyone would want a secondary source verifying the government's own legislation website, though. Even I'm not that suspicious. Wink