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Lying about convictions


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By Runner83 - 11 Nov 16 8:03 PM

BenS - 5 Aug 15 6:55 PM
Square said...
It is true it will severely limit your options, but I like many other members on her have both an unspent conviction and a job.


Agreed, I am in the same position.

TheVeronicas, it is not a crime to refuse to fill in the form if you don't want a potential employer to do a check. It will mean you won't get the job but it's not a crime. Without your consent, they cannot do a check - but they won't offer you the job. But it will be almost impossible to find a professional-style graduate job that doesn't ask you about convictions during the application. Have something prepared that they can read, to explain the conviction, as Square has suggested on an other thread.

It will be frustrating waiting the 4 years out until your conviction is spent, but lower-level menial jobs like cleaning, informal labour or retail are more likely to ignore convictions. Try not to feel superior and that certain jobs are beneath you - I am not saying you personally are like this, but I know what it's like - I also have a degree, but it is not an automatic entitlement and no job is below you. Also, consider self-employment if it is feasible for you, then you will never have to worry about convictions as you will be your boss.

Post Edited (BenS) : 03/07/2016 13:24:03 (GMT+2)


Hi
Thanks for the advice.
I was convicted of a crime. Originally I had a very sociable personality. The years have passed and due to a lack of social interaction and ability to socialise my social abilities have diminished. I find I can not declare my crime to myself, let alone anyone else.
Presently I'm unemployed and getting income support, and my rent paid. The problem is when declaring yourself self employed all the financial benefits stop.
To adapt to the social situation I have a website. But, this mode of self employment does not guarantee a wage. I can not register myself with Company House as all the financial benefits will stop.
How can I get around this?
Regards
Runner
By BenS - 13 Nov 16 1:49 PM

Runner83 - 11 Nov 16 8:03 PM

To adapt to the social situation I have a website. But, this mode of self employment does not guarantee a wage. I can not register myself with Company House as all the financial benefits will stop.
How can I get around this?
Regards
Runner

You don't have to register with Companies House to work for yourself. You can be just a simple self-employed person without having to start your own company.

E.g. if you are freelance/self-employed plumber, maintenance man, translator, tour guide, writer, whatever ... you can just be self-employed, and not a company. Just fill in your tax self-assessment once a year and that's all you need. It's what I do.

If it does not guarantee a wage, I'm not sure. Others will know more. Isn't income support supposed to be something like that, for people who work but don't earn enough?
By TheVeronicas - 22 Dec 15 8:49 PM

I am really struggling to find jobs in the gradate market, I know this is because of my conviction, and it will take another 4 years to be spent. My friends all have found good careers and this makes me really sad, I've always been the brightest, and I really want to work rather than sit at home.

If I lie on the application and say I have no convictions, can the employer find out?

The only way to find out is through a DBS check? And they need to ask my permission to conduct it? I have to fill in the form?

My plan is to quit the job of it comes to this?