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Hi
Interesting discussions points n the amount of image data "business" would have to hold and the issues.
Cross link this to another post about facial recognition and 2 thoughts pop to mind:
1) The "tranasaction timings" for this to be an efficient process would be hard to maintain
2) Would the Government not use this as a reason to have "ID" cards (which i agree) so to only need to have a simple xref check like a credit card purchase
Remember most of these concepts may be the dreams of M.P.s but reality is not a vote winner
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AB2014
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+x+x+xhttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-67615719One of the most read stories on the BBC website , was this one about the proposed use of facial recognition software for porn sites . At the moment its only a recommendation by Ofcom and it won ' t happen until at least 2025 , if it happens at all , but it does show where things are going . If anyone thinks that this technology is still in development , or that it has never been used in a real world environment , then they really ought to look at what is going on in China , where facial recognition software is already being used to limit childrens access to online gaming . The exact same thing is being suggested by Ofcom , for restricting childrens access to porn here in the UK , but once the principle is established , then it could easily be extended to online gaming , or anything that people do on the net . Porn is just the guinea pig that will be used to test it out . We ' ve been here before of course . A few years back , the govt said that people would need to gve their credit card details in order to access porn , but they later dropped that idea , mainly because of the privacy issues and it had limitations , because a child could still gain access by using their parents credit card , so it wasnt foolproof . This facial recognition tech is more sophisticated , and it can determine if a child is using an adults id , although the privacy issues remain . Everyone would need to have a digital id document of some sort to confirm their age and that would need to be stored online somewhere , which effectively means id cards for all British citizens including children would be required and there will be objections to that from civil liberties groups . There are also cost implications for the porn sites themselves . Only the large ones will be able to afford this technology , so I expect the smaller ones will simply withdraw from the UK and block UK users from accessing their sites , because thats cheaper than complying with the ofcom rules . So in future , porn will most likely only be accessible through vpns , because you can pretend that you are in a different country , but then the govt might require you to have your face scanned before you can use your vpn . At some point , we will get to a stage where this is required for everything that we do and if you look at online banking and how that is no longer possible anymore , without you also having a phone to receive your access codes , then its probably going to be the banks that will introduce facial recognition tech first , even before the porn sites do . All in all , I think it spells the end for anonymous internet access and the introduction of Chinese style state surveillance , within maybe ten years from now . An interesting read . In terms of the technology , facial recognition is already an option for the newer iPhones , so it might be available sooner than you think . My phone still uses my fingerprint , but if I upgraded to a newer iPhone , I would effectively have to use facial recognition to access my banking app . Now presumably Apple would need to have an original image of your face , to compare with that of the person who is trying to log in . I ' m guessing that the user would upload that original to their phone when purchasing it and it would not need to be from an official document , just any photo of their face would do ? In that instance your image is only stored on your phone , it is not held by Apple themselves . But if it were for a banking app , then they would want to compare your face with that of the person who opened the account , rather than the person who purchased the phone . That would require your bank to hold an image of your face on a central database somewhere and it would need to be from an official document like a passport , as well . Well , maybe . I currently use a fingerprint to open my banking app , and I doubt my bank has a copy of that . If every banking app user in the UK had to have a photo held by the bank it would be impossible , as so many people don ' t have a bank branch near them anymore . If they just accept an image provided remotely by the phone user , that defeats the object of the original security measure .
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+x+xhttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-67615719One of the most read stories on the BBC website , was this one about the proposed use of facial recognition software for porn sites . At the moment its only a recommendation by Ofcom and it won ' t happen until at least 2025 , if it happens at all , but it does show where things are going . If anyone thinks that this technology is still in development , or that it has never been used in a real world environment , then they really ought to look at what is going on in China , where facial recognition software is already being used to limit childrens access to online gaming . The exact same thing is being suggested by Ofcom , for restricting childrens access to porn here in the UK , but once the principle is established , then it could easily be extended to online gaming , or anything that people do on the net . Porn is just the guinea pig that will be used to test it out . We ' ve been here before of course . A few years back , the govt said that people would need to gve their credit card details in order to access porn , but they later dropped that idea , mainly because of the privacy issues and it had limitations , because a child could still gain access by using their parents credit card , so it wasnt foolproof . This facial recognition tech is more sophisticated , and it can determine if a child is using an adults id , although the privacy issues remain . Everyone would need to have a digital id document of some sort to confirm their age and that would need to be stored online somewhere , which effectively means id cards for all British citizens including children would be required and there will be objections to that from civil liberties groups . There are also cost implications for the porn sites themselves . Only the large ones will be able to afford this technology , so I expect the smaller ones will simply withdraw from the UK and block UK users from accessing their sites , because thats cheaper than complying with the ofcom rules . So in future , porn will most likely only be accessible through vpns , because you can pretend that you are in a different country , but then the govt might require you to have your face scanned before you can use your vpn . At some point , we will get to a stage where this is required for everything that we do and if you look at online banking and how that is no longer possible anymore , without you also having a phone to receive your access codes , then its probably going to be the banks that will introduce facial recognition tech first , even before the porn sites do . All in all , I think it spells the end for anonymous internet access and the introduction of Chinese style state surveillance , within maybe ten years from now . An interesting read . In terms of the technology , facial recognition is already an option for the newer iPhones , so it might be available sooner than you think . My phone still uses my fingerprint , but if I upgraded to a newer iPhone , I would effectively have to use facial recognition to access my banking app . Now presumably Apple would need to have an original image of your face , to compare with that of the person who is trying to log in . I ' m guessing that the user would upload that original to their phone when purchasing it and it would not need to be from an official document , just any photo of their face would do ? In that instance your image is only stored on your phone , it is not held by Apple themselves . But if it were for a banking app , then they would want to compare your face with that of the person who opened the account , rather than the person who purchased the phone . That would require your bank to hold an image of your face on a central database somewhere and it would need to be from an official document like a passport , as well .
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+xhttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-67615719One of the most read stories on the BBC website , was this one about the proposed use of facial recognition software for porn sites . At the moment its only a recommendation by Ofcom and it won ' t happen until at least 2025 , if it happens at all , but it does show where things are going . If anyone thinks that this technology is still in development , or that it has never been used in a real world environment , then they really ought to look at what is going on in China , where facial recognition software is already being used to limit childrens access to online gaming . The exact same thing is being suggested by Ofcom , for restricting childrens access to porn here in the UK , but once the principle is established , then it could easily be extended to online gaming , or anything that people do on the net . Porn is just the guinea pig that will be used to test it out . We ' ve been here before of course . A few years back , the govt said that people would need to gve their credit card details in order to access porn , but they later dropped that idea , mainly because of the privacy issues and it had limitations , because a child could still gain access by using their parents credit card , so it wasnt foolproof . This facial recognition tech is more sophisticated , and it can determine if a child is using an adults id , although the privacy issues remain . Everyone would need to have a digital id document of some sort to confirm their age and that would need to be stored online somewhere , which effectively means id cards for all British citizens including children would be required and there will be objections to that from civil liberties groups . There are also cost implications for the porn sites themselves . Only the large ones will be able to afford this technology , so I expect the smaller ones will simply withdraw from the UK and block UK users from accessing their sites , because thats cheaper than complying with the ofcom rules . So in future , porn will most likely only be accessible through vpns , because you can pretend that you are in a different country , but then the govt might require you to have your face scanned before you can use your vpn . At some point , we will get to a stage where this is required for everything that we do and if you look at online banking and how that is no longer possible anymore , without you also having a phone to receive your access codes , then its probably going to be the banks that will introduce facial recognition tech first , even before the porn sites do . All in all , I think it spells the end for anonymous internet access and the introduction of Chinese style state surveillance , within maybe ten years from now . An interesting read . In terms of the technology , facial recognition is already an option for the newer iPhones , so it might be available sooner than you think . My phone still uses my fingerprint , but if I upgraded to a newer iPhone , I would effectively have to use facial recognition to access my banking app .
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If you are to punish a man retributively you must injure him. If you are to reform him you must improve him. And men are not improved by injuries. (George Bernard Shaw)
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-67615719One of the most read stories on the BBC website , was this one about the proposed use of facial recognition software for porn sites . At the moment its only a recommendation by Ofcom and it won ' t happen until at least 2025 , if it happens at all , but it does show where things are going . If anyone thinks that this technology is still in development , or that it has never been used in a real world environment , then they really ought to look at what is going on in China , where facial recognition software is already being used to limit childrens access to online gaming . The exact same thing is being suggested by Ofcom , for restricting childrens access to porn here in the UK , but once the principle is established , then it could easily be extended to online gaming , or anything that people do on the net . Porn is just the guinea pig that will be used to test it out . We ' ve been here before of course . A few years back , the govt said that people would need to gve their credit card details in order to access porn , but they later dropped that idea , mainly because of the privacy issues and it had limitations , because a child could still gain access by using their parents credit card , so it wasnt foolproof . This facial recognition tech is more sophisticated , and it can determine if a child is using an adults id , although the privacy issues remain . Everyone would need to have a digital id document of some sort to confirm their age and that would need to be stored online somewhere , which effectively means id cards for all British citizens including children would be required and there will be objections to that from civil liberties groups . There are also cost implications for the porn sites themselves . Only the large ones will be able to afford this technology , so I expect the smaller ones will simply withdraw from the UK and block UK users from accessing their sites , because thats cheaper than complying with the ofcom rules . So in future , porn will most likely only be accessible through vpns , because you can pretend that you are in a different country , but then the govt might require you to have your face scanned before you can use your vpn . At some point , we will get to a stage where this is required for everything that we do and if you look at online banking and how that is no longer possible anymore , without you also having a phone to receive your access codes , then its probably going to be the banks that will introduce facial recognition tech first , even before the porn sites do . All in all , I think it spells the end for anonymous internet access and the introduction of Chinese style state surveillance , within maybe ten years from now .
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