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Just when I thought it was almost over


Just when I thought it was almost over

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Nice to see the forums are working again

I replied to Google, included documentation to prove the outcome of the hearing that my SHPO was discharged.
I also quoted the Rehabilitation of Offenders Act to explain that the conviction is now considered spent and no longer in the public interest.

Google replied saying they will not be taking any action to de-list the links, as it is still in the public interest based on the case they have seen in said links.

I will fill out a new form entirely, providing further details as Google are no longer replying to my emails asking for clarification.
If that fails then I will have to take it up with the ICO

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xDanx - 3 Jul 24 2:56 PM
Nice to see the forums are working again

I replied to Google, included documentation to prove the outcome of the hearing that my SHPO was discharged.
I also quoted the Rehabilitation of Offenders Act to explain that the conviction is now considered spent and no longer in the public interest.

Google replied saying they will not be taking any action to de-list the links, as it is still in the public interest based on the case they have seen in said links.

I will fill out a new form entirely, providing further details as Google are no longer replying to my emails asking for clarification.
If that fails then I will have to take it up with the ICO

That's disappointing to hear but sadly not entirely surprising if I'm being honest.

I will advise a bit of caution around ICO. While this is anecdotal they ended up making things much worse for me and caused a sort of "Streisand effect" situation where they ended up reaching out to the websites (namely the vigilante stuff) saying "Hey, Khafka wants you to remove the stuff you're saying about him!" - which in those kind of circles I'm sure you could imagine how well that went over.

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I have had the same response twice from both Google and the ICO both saying there was still a public interest reason for not removing vigilante links to my name even though my conviction was over ten years ago and spent and my SHPO was dismissed five years early with the support of the police!


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david123 - 5 Jul 24 4:36 PM
I have had the same response twice from both Google and the ICO both saying there was still a public interest reason for not removing vigilante links to my name even though my conviction was over ten years ago and spent and my SHPO was dismissed five years early with the support of the police!


This worries me. Why would someone on this forum seem to have no issue getting links removed. But then someone like yourself have a problem with getting removed. Ive not searched my own name and I wont till my SHPO is over. I just hope in just over a year the links have somehow vanished or im able to get them removed. 
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Jamie7718 - 6 Jul 24 12:25 PM
david123 - 5 Jul 24 4:36 PM
I have had the same response twice from both Google and the ICO both saying there was still a public interest reason for not removing vigilante links to my name even though my conviction was over ten years ago and spent and my SHPO was dismissed five years early with the support of the police!


This worries me. Why would someone on this forum seem to have no issue getting links removed. But then someone like yourself have a problem with getting removed. Ive not searched my own name and I wont till my SHPO is over. I just hope in just over a year the links have somehow vanished or im able to get them removed. 

The only thing I can think of in cases like this is if the person is still on the SOR, they will use that to say it is still in the public interest. We've also seen on here that they seem to apply England & Wales rules across the UK.

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AB2014 - 6 Aug 24 3:52 PM
Jamie7718 - 6 Jul 24 12:25 PM
david123 - 5 Jul 24 4:36 PM
I have had the same response twice from both Google and the ICO both saying there was still a public interest reason for not removing vigilante links to my name even though my conviction was over ten years ago and spent and my SHPO was dismissed five years early with the support of the police!


This worries me. Why would someone on this forum seem to have no issue getting links removed. But then someone like yourself have a problem with getting removed. Ive not searched my own name and I wont till my SHPO is over. I just hope in just over a year the links have somehow vanished or im able to get them removed. 

The only thing I can think of in cases like this is if the person is still on the SOR, they will use that to say it is still in the public interest. We've also seen on here that they seem to apply England & Wales rules across the UK.

That was basically my experience (albeit it in Scotland). Google were very reluctant to remove me under the "public interest" guise while I was still on the register but as soon as I came off I didn't receive any backlash from them. I did actually raise the query as to what their definition/criteria for "public interest" actually is but they wouldn't specify.

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