Should I use ESTA?

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Should I use ESTA?

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Hola	Hola Posted 6 Years Ago #27042
Supreme Being Group: Forum Members Posts: 79, Visits: 2.7K	+x Hola - 1 Feb 20 2:28 PM +x AB2014 - 30 Jan 20 2:49 PM +x Hola - 30 Jan 20 2:24 PM +x Deb S - 29 Jan 20 11:36 AM +x Spip - 29 Jan 20 8:34 AM Apologies for asking questions that have probably been covered already. I want to travel to USA to close a business deal in the near future. I'm self employed and have two spent convictions from 2009 - one common assault and one of voyeurism. I was given a fine, a 3 year supervision order (which lasted until August 2012) and was on the SOR for 5 years. The offences both occurred in mid 2008, together. I was found guilty at trial (wrongfully - as the whole thing was an inadvertent mistake, with not bad intentions on my part) and sentenced the following month. Both convictions have been spent under 1974 act (I'm in UK). What is the best way for me to enter USA? Should I declare the convictions and travel on a visa - either business or tourist? Or, should I answer NO to questions on ETSA and hope they don't find out, disclosing nothing upon further questions? Is it possible for them to check my criminal record? I've read about showing remorse During a visa interview (assuming I disclosed everything) - I'm not remorseful of the crime, but I do have empathy for the victim. Should I lie about this and be remorseful of the crimes? I was placed on the barring list for working with children and vulnerable adults, with no chance of appeal for at least 10 years. This time has now passed, so is it possible for me to be removed from the two lists now? If so, how do I even start? I should point out that I visited USA in 2000 before Sept 11th, with no visa requirement - just a landing card that I truthfully filled out as having no convictions. A few brief questions upon entry and I was free to travel. I'm sorry for the long winded explanations - I'm a newbie here and find all the topics and replies very helpful. So, thank you in advance if you are able to help! Hi Spip Welcome to theForum. As Yankee says, if you go down the route of applying for a visa you'll need to provide a copy of your police certificate which will disclose your criminal record (immigration/travel is exempt from the Rehabilitation of Offenders Act). As there's no link to your criminal record from your passport, people do lie when completing the ESTA form and then travel to the USA without any problems. The only things to remember are that (a) if you get asked about your criminal record by an immigration officer in the US you'll need to continue with the lie (b) if you wish to live/work permanently in the US then the fact that you've travelled on an ESTA may potentially cause you problems. With regard to applying to come off the barred list, you'll need to make an application to: Review Team Disclosure and Barring Service PO BOX 181 Darlington DL1 9FA There's a section relating to DBS barring - representation, reviews and appeals on the Unlock Information Hub site which is definitely worth having a look at. Keep us updated. Debs Hi Debs Is the same review authority if you were sentenced in Scotland please ? ( if you know ) Thanks in advance Hola No. The DBS only covers England & Wales. For Scotland, you need Disclosure Scotland. thanks sorry, just to clarify, is that even if i now live in Eng do you know ? 257
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Stersco83	Stersco83 Posted 2 days ago @ 5:53 PM #36072
Supreme Being Group: Forum Members Posts: 14, Visits: 95	+x Was - 30 Jan 20 5:31 PM +x Yankee - 29 Jan 20 9:36 AM If you decide to go the ESTA route, the US has no visibility into UK criminal records. This is true but when I was convicted within a day I had an email recinding my existing ESTA. I assumed that the police had notified them because I certainly hadn't! If the US keeps their own record of the notice then they won't require active access to the UK records. This interests me. One minute we hear "The USA has no access to UK records". The next "I can't even get convicted for 24 hours without the ESTA people finding out" 4
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CB Root	CB Root Posted 2 days ago @ 9:41 PM #36073
Supreme Being Group: Forum Members Posts: 30, Visits: 1.1K	+x Stersco83 - 5 May 26 5:53 PM +x Was - 30 Jan 20 5:31 PM +x Yankee - 29 Jan 20 9:36 AM If you decide to go the ESTA route, the US has no visibility into UK criminal records. This is true but when I was convicted within a day I had an email recinding my existing ESTA. I assumed that the police had notified them because I certainly hadn't! If the US keeps their own record of the notice then they won't require active access to the UK records. This interests me. One minute we hear "The USA has no access to UK records". The next "I can't even get convicted for 24 hours without the ESTA people finding out" I had Global Entry before it all happened. It took 11 days from my arrest for them to cancel it (I still have the email). That's arrest, not charge or conviction: arrest. So make of that what you will. 3
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Stersco83	Stersco83 Posted Yesterday @ 5:37 PM #36078
Supreme Being Group: Forum Members Posts: 14, Visits: 95	+x CB Root - 5 May 26 9:41 PM +x Stersco83 - 5 May 26 5:53 PM +x Was - 30 Jan 20 5:31 PM +x Yankee - 29 Jan 20 9:36 AM If you decide to go the ESTA route, the US has no visibility into UK criminal records. This is true but when I was convicted within a day I had an email recinding my existing ESTA. I assumed that the police had notified them because I certainly hadn't! If the US keeps their own record of the notice then they won't require active access to the UK records. This interests me. One minute we hear "The USA has no access to UK records". The next "I can't even get convicted for 24 hours without the ESTA people finding out" I had Global Entry before it all happened. It took 11 days from my arrest for them to cancel it (I still have the email). That's arrest, not charge or conviction: arrest. So make of that what you will. What did the email say? Any explanation therein? 2
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CB Root	CB Root Posted Yesterday @ 10:02 PM #36079
Supreme Being Group: Forum Members Posts: 30, Visits: 1.1K	+x Stersco83 - 7 May 26 5:37 PM +x CB Root - 5 May 26 9:41 PM +x Stersco83 - 5 May 26 5:53 PM +x Was - 30 Jan 20 5:31 PM +x Yankee - 29 Jan 20 9:36 AM If you decide to go the ESTA route, the US has no visibility into UK criminal records. This is true but when I was convicted within a day I had an email recinding my existing ESTA. I assumed that the police had notified them because I certainly hadn't! If the US keeps their own record of the notice then they won't require active access to the UK records. This interests me. One minute we hear "The USA has no access to UK records". The next "I can't even get convicted for 24 hours without the ESTA people finding out" I had Global Entry before it all happened. It took 11 days from my arrest for them to cancel it (I still have the email). That's arrest, not charge or conviction: arrest. So make of that what you will. What did the email say? Any explanation therein? This is the actual email (parts redacted for privacy): From: ttp-no-reply@cbp.dhs.gov Sat, <date redacted>, 06:55 Dear <name redacted>, Re: PASSID:<redacted> Application status change There has been a recent change to the status of your application. Please login to the Trusted Traveler Programs Website (https://ttp.dhs.gov) for more information. This e-mail was sent from a notification-only address that cannot accept incoming email. Please do not reply to this message. Thank you, U.S. Customs and Border Protection When I logged in the status had changed to unapproved (or something similar - it's a few years ago now !) and that was that. Edited Yesterday @ 10:03 PM by CB Root 2
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