+x+x+x+xSeems like the FT is reporting delays til 2027 at least? Looks that way My fraud conviction is 11.5 years ago now so (Im assuming after reading on here) I would have to declare it if applying for an etias (question could ask for 15 years) however i understand there will also be a 6 month grace period??? im considering booking an event in europe in august 2027, but not sure whether to risk it or not yet and I would have to commit in august of this year if the etias does not start by feb 27 i should be ok, I think anyway, I wish they would just hurry up and sort it / or not hard to make plans with uncertainty When the regulations were passed, there was an argument between the parliament/commission and the data regulator, who said that they didn't have the authority to change the regulations. Nothing official has been announced about the period changing from ten years to fifteen, so it may well still be ten years. All we can do is wait for the application form to appear and see what the question actually asks. tedstriker would normally be the person to ask about this stuff, but he hasn't posted on here for quite a while. The latest published regulation at EUR-Lex - 02018R1240-20260612 - EN - EUR-Lex does state that it is 25 years for terrorism and 15 years for any other offence listed in the Annex. So it does look like it will be 15 years. The Annex of relevant offences to declare is so long that there will be many people who will have to declare a conviction even when their conviction in the UK is spent. Also if someone does indeed lie on their application how do they know that is the case, do they have access to UK criminal records which they can check against? It would be useful to know at this stage the questions involved and the decision making process when a criminal conviction is declared. Also if you do get denied due to a criminal record is this information retained which makes it harder to get an ETIAS waiver in the future? It does look highly likely that it will be delayed until at least early 2027 though and it may well be delayed longer than that if the new EES system doesn't bed in fast enough. 15 years for me would take me to 2034 so I may not be able to go to the EU until then. That is the regulation that was passed in 2018, but then whoever is in charge of data at the EU said that it wasn't valid because nobody had the authority to change the regulation that was originally submitted. Since then, nothing has been made public about it, so all we can do is wait to see what is on the application form. Whether or not a conviction is spent in any part of the UK is not relevant, as they want disclosure of any convictions in one of those categories within the previous 10 or 15 years. So, an unspent drink-driving conviction doesn't have to be disclosed, while a spent conviction for forgery or computer-related crime from 9 years previously should be disclosed. They don't have access to the UK criminal records system, so unless your details have been notified to them by the British police, they won't know and can't check. They say they will check "their databases" to see if they have any information there, but if they find nothing then the ETIAS should be approved.
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