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+x+x+x+x+xThanks for the reply's. I done everything right. I changed my name and moved away - so someone really has went to some effort to 'out' me! I, again, done all the right thing regarding google. I waited until convictions were spent and requested they be removed. The response was that they wouldn't remove them as they were 'in the public's intrest'. I know where I am - I know I need to start again. I know I can do it, but its exhausting and I really don't know how much mental resolve I have to keep going through this. I am always a big believer in the concept of Karma - I know I done something wrong quite some time agao, but I have done lots and lots of good things since. I am not asking for forgiveness from anyone, all I want is to live some sort of lifae and pay my way. We've had reports of this "public interest" claim before. It might be worth involving the ICO, even if they do have a backlog. There are no guarantees, except that if you don't involve them you won't make any progress. I've tried a couple times to get links for my name to certain vigilante websites removed but each time the ICO have agreed with Google that there is a 'public interest' reason' for not removing them. Waste of time! I don't know if the convictions were spent when you complained to the ICO, but if they were still unspent then they almost certainly wouldn't help you. Sometimes, though, they do seem to refuse to act even when the convictions are spent. That was a particular problem for one guy on here who lives in Scotland. His conviction is spent there, but they still wouldn't help him. Not sure if that was because they base their decisions on the law in England & Wales or if it was personal prejudice by individuals affecting their professional decisions. The conviction is spent and my SHPO has been dismissed 5 years early with the police consent but still Google and the ICO say there is still a public interest reason for not unlinking my name to theses vigilante sites! The only thing I can think is that if you are still on the SOR they're using that as their justification. It doesn't tally with what the previous commissioner said, but I doubt they're losing any sleep over that.
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If you are to punish a man retributively you must injure him. If you are to reform him you must improve him. And men are not improved by injuries. (George Bernard Shaw)
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david123
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+x+x+x+xThanks for the reply's. I done everything right. I changed my name and moved away - so someone really has went to some effort to 'out' me! I, again, done all the right thing regarding google. I waited until convictions were spent and requested they be removed. The response was that they wouldn't remove them as they were 'in the public's intrest'. I know where I am - I know I need to start again. I know I can do it, but its exhausting and I really don't know how much mental resolve I have to keep going through this. I am always a big believer in the concept of Karma - I know I done something wrong quite some time agao, but I have done lots and lots of good things since. I am not asking for forgiveness from anyone, all I want is to live some sort of lifae and pay my way. We've had reports of this "public interest" claim before. It might be worth involving the ICO, even if they do have a backlog. There are no guarantees, except that if you don't involve them you won't make any progress. I've tried a couple times to get links for my name to certain vigilante websites removed but each time the ICO have agreed with Google that there is a 'public interest' reason' for not removing them. Waste of time! I don't know if the convictions were spent when you complained to the ICO, but if they were still unspent then they almost certainly wouldn't help you. Sometimes, though, they do seem to refuse to act even when the convictions are spent. That was a particular problem for one guy on here who lives in Scotland. His conviction is spent there, but they still wouldn't help him. Not sure if that was because they base their decisions on the law in England & Wales or if it was personal prejudice by individuals affecting their professional decisions. The conviction is spent and my SHPO has been dismissed 5 years early with the police consent but still Google and the ICO say there is still a public interest reason for not unlinking my name to theses vigilante sites!
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Mr W
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+xThanks for the reply's. I done everything right. I changed my name and moved away - so someone really has went to some effort to 'out' me! I, again, done all the right thing regarding google. I waited until convictions were spent and requested they be removed. The response was that they wouldn't remove them as they were 'in the public's intrest'. I know where I am - I know I need to start again. I know I can do it, but its exhausting and I really don't know how much mental resolve I have to keep going through this. I am always a big believer in the concept of Karma - I know I done something wrong quite some time agao, but I have done lots and lots of good things since. I am not asking for forgiveness from anyone, all I want is to live some sort of lifae and pay my way. I can totally relate to the frustration of just wanting to get on with your life. It's disappointing to hear you're still having to deal with this after 1) being spent, 2) changed your name and 3) moved elsewhere. I don't understand how someone can still make the link when, as you say, you've done so much to protect yourself. What I will say is you have shown great resilience and ability to get back on the horse already and you're not alone with these unfair, because they are unfair, scenarios. As you can tell by the responses, there's lots of people here who understand and will all help if we can.
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AB2014
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+x+x+x+x+xThanks for the reply's. I done everything right. I changed my name and moved away - so someone really has went to some effort to 'out' me! I, again, done all the right thing regarding google. I waited until convictions were spent and requested they be removed. The response was that they wouldn't remove them as they were 'in the public's intrest'. I know where I am - I know I need to start again. I know I can do it, but its exhausting and I really don't know how much mental resolve I have to keep going through this. I am always a big believer in the concept of Karma - I know I done something wrong quite some time agao, but I have done lots and lots of good things since. I am not asking for forgiveness from anyone, all I want is to live some sort of lifae and pay my way. We've had reports of this "public interest" claim before. It might be worth involving the ICO, even if they do have a backlog. There are no guarantees, except that if you don't involve them you won't make any progress. I've tried a couple times to get links for my name to certain vigilante websites removed but each time the ICO have agreed with Google that there is a 'public interest' reason' for not removing them. Waste of time! I don't know if the convictions were spent when you complained to the ICO, but if they were still unspent then they almost certainly wouldn't help you. Sometimes, though, they do seem to refuse to act even when the convictions are spent. That was a particular problem for one guy on here who lives in Scotland. His conviction is spent there, but they still wouldn't help him. Not sure if that was because they base their decisions on the law in England & Wales or if it was personal prejudice by individuals affecting their professional decisions. I'm going to assume you're maybe talking about me there? Aye, ICO weren't much use at all. I've actually tried twice to get my name removed and both times failed. The first time I was quite fresh-faced and still serving my sentence and it was denied (not to mention they ended up doxing me to the vigilante Facebook and that website), my complaint wasn't ever properly resolved to my satisfaction but at that time I just didn't have the mental energy to spend on it. The second time my conviction was classed as spent (although I was still on the register) and Google and then subsequently ICO both told me they couldn't due to public interest - When I reached back to get them to define what they mean by public interest and the threshold for it I got radio silence. As of this year my sentence is obviously still spent, I'm off the register and back to being a 'free' man as it were. I'm sure I'll try tackle it again at some point but I honestly don't know what else I can do about it. It was you I had in mind, but I don't like to name names in that context. I strongly suspect that you were the victim of Anglo-centric ignorance (I'm English, so I can say that, BTW) and a failure by them to investigate properly. Hopefully, once you meet the "English" threshold, they'll finally get round to doing what they should have done some time ago.
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If you are to punish a man retributively you must injure him. If you are to reform him you must improve him. And men are not improved by injuries. (George Bernard Shaw)
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+x+x+x+xThanks for the reply's. I done everything right. I changed my name and moved away - so someone really has went to some effort to 'out' me! I, again, done all the right thing regarding google. I waited until convictions were spent and requested they be removed. The response was that they wouldn't remove them as they were 'in the public's intrest'. I know where I am - I know I need to start again. I know I can do it, but its exhausting and I really don't know how much mental resolve I have to keep going through this. I am always a big believer in the concept of Karma - I know I done something wrong quite some time agao, but I have done lots and lots of good things since. I am not asking for forgiveness from anyone, all I want is to live some sort of lifae and pay my way. We've had reports of this "public interest" claim before. It might be worth involving the ICO, even if they do have a backlog. There are no guarantees, except that if you don't involve them you won't make any progress. I've tried a couple times to get links for my name to certain vigilante websites removed but each time the ICO have agreed with Google that there is a 'public interest' reason' for not removing them. Waste of time! I don't know if the convictions were spent when you complained to the ICO, but if they were still unspent then they almost certainly wouldn't help you. Sometimes, though, they do seem to refuse to act even when the convictions are spent. That was a particular problem for one guy on here who lives in Scotland. His conviction is spent there, but they still wouldn't help him. Not sure if that was because they base their decisions on the law in England & Wales or if it was personal prejudice by individuals affecting their professional decisions. I'm going to assume you're maybe talking about me there? Aye, ICO weren't much use at all. I've actually tried twice to get my name removed and both times failed. The first time I was quite fresh-faced and still serving my sentence and it was denied (not to mention they ended up doxing me to the vigilante Facebook and that website), my complaint wasn't ever properly resolved to my satisfaction but at that time I just didn't have the mental energy to spend on it. The second time my conviction was classed as spent (although I was still on the register) and Google and then subsequently ICO both told me they couldn't due to public interest - When I reached back to get them to define what they mean by public interest and the threshold for it I got radio silence. As of this year my sentence is obviously still spent, I'm off the register and back to being a 'free' man as it were. I'm sure I'll try tackle it again at some point but I honestly don't know what else I can do about it.
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+x+x+xThanks for the reply's. I done everything right. I changed my name and moved away - so someone really has went to some effort to 'out' me! I, again, done all the right thing regarding google. I waited until convictions were spent and requested they be removed. The response was that they wouldn't remove them as they were 'in the public's intrest'. I know where I am - I know I need to start again. I know I can do it, but its exhausting and I really don't know how much mental resolve I have to keep going through this. I am always a big believer in the concept of Karma - I know I done something wrong quite some time agao, but I have done lots and lots of good things since. I am not asking for forgiveness from anyone, all I want is to live some sort of lifae and pay my way. We've had reports of this "public interest" claim before. It might be worth involving the ICO, even if they do have a backlog. There are no guarantees, except that if you don't involve them you won't make any progress. I've tried a couple times to get links for my name to certain vigilante websites removed but each time the ICO have agreed with Google that there is a 'public interest' reason' for not removing them. Waste of time! I don't know if the convictions were spent when you complained to the ICO, but if they were still unspent then they almost certainly wouldn't help you. Sometimes, though, they do seem to refuse to act even when the convictions are spent. That was a particular problem for one guy on here who lives in Scotland. His conviction is spent there, but they still wouldn't help him. Not sure if that was because they base their decisions on the law in England & Wales or if it was personal prejudice by individuals affecting their professional decisions.
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If you are to punish a man retributively you must injure him. If you are to reform him you must improve him. And men are not improved by injuries. (George Bernard Shaw)
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david123
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+x+xThanks for the reply's. I done everything right. I changed my name and moved away - so someone really has went to some effort to 'out' me! I, again, done all the right thing regarding google. I waited until convictions were spent and requested they be removed. The response was that they wouldn't remove them as they were 'in the public's intrest'. I know where I am - I know I need to start again. I know I can do it, but its exhausting and I really don't know how much mental resolve I have to keep going through this. I am always a big believer in the concept of Karma - I know I done something wrong quite some time agao, but I have done lots and lots of good things since. I am not asking for forgiveness from anyone, all I want is to live some sort of lifae and pay my way. We've had reports of this "public interest" claim before. It might be worth involving the ICO, even if they do have a backlog. There are no guarantees, except that if you don't involve them you won't make any progress. I've tried a couple times to get links for my name to certain vigilante websites removed but each time the ICO have agreed with Google that there is a 'public interest' reason' for not removing them. Waste of time!
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+xThanks for the reply's. I done everything right. I changed my name and moved away - so someone really has went to some effort to 'out' me! I, again, done all the right thing regarding google. I waited until convictions were spent and requested they be removed. The response was that they wouldn't remove them as they were 'in the public's intrest'. I know where I am - I know I need to start again. I know I can do it, but its exhausting and I really don't know how much mental resolve I have to keep going through this. I am always a big believer in the concept of Karma - I know I done something wrong quite some time agao, but I have done lots and lots of good things since. I am not asking for forgiveness from anyone, all I want is to live some sort of lifae and pay my way. We've had reports of this "public interest" claim before. It might be worth involving the ICO, even if they do have a backlog. There are no guarantees, except that if you don't involve them you won't make any progress.
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If you are to punish a man retributively you must injure him. If you are to reform him you must improve him. And men are not improved by injuries. (George Bernard Shaw)
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Thanks for the reply's.
I done everything right. I changed my name and moved away - so someone really has went to some effort to 'out' me!
I, again, done all the right thing regarding google. I waited until convictions were spent and requested they be removed. The response was that they wouldn't remove them as they were 'in the public's intrest'.
I know where I am - I know I need to start again. I know I can do it, but its exhausting and I really don't know how much mental resolve I have to keep going through this.
I am always a big believer in the concept of Karma - I know I done something wrong quite some time agao, but I have done lots and lots of good things since. I am not asking for forgiveness from anyone, all I want is to live some sort of lifae and pay my way.
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+xHi steadfast, Fiirst of all welcome, I’m glad you’ve found this forum if you needed space to vent, by all means, vent away! Plenty of people here can understand or sympathise with difficulties when it comes to employment. It’s such a shame that the wheels have come off for some reason when you’ve been doing the right things. It sounds like you’ve done incredibly well post-conviction to hold down as much work as you have, so far. So be proud of yourself for that. Just a thought, have you changed your name? You mentioned being in the papers, is it because of the Google effect that this has happened? With the skills you have, is there any chance you could start something yourself as self-employed / start your own business? I’m sure you’ve thought of this already, but the employer who was aware of the conviction and happy with your work, can they help? Just a few thoughts.
Anyway, as far as isolated, make sure you’re getting out, going for a coffee or a longer walk around for a food shop or something, little things to keep you from staying in (Which is so easy to do these days). Keep us posted on how you’re getting on. Another question to ask is whether your conviction is spent (under the Rehabilitation of Offenders Act). If it is, then you can ask Google to remove links to webpages that contain information about it. There is some scepticism on here about that process, but once the conviction is spent, you are more likely to get those links removed from search results. You can read more about that on Unlock's website here. If you can get those links removed, it makes it that much harder for anyone new to find that information online, and also makes denial more plausible. If your conviction is spent, you don't have to disclose it for a basic DBS check, so please make sure you don't over-disclose.
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If you are to punish a man retributively you must injure him. If you are to reform him you must improve him. And men are not improved by injuries. (George Bernard Shaw)
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