+xI had both experiences. I had to disclose to my last perm employer when going to court as I plead guilty, and 8 working days later had been processed through their complete disciplinary procedures to be dismissed for gross misconduct -  I was lucky in that I could move away, and was supported by my wife working. So I went self-employed as an interim manager. My probation officer directly said I only had to disclose if asked and I never was. It was 8 years ago now and from memory I think only 2 of many agencies I registered with asked the ' have you ?', and I just said no, which I felt was a risk worth taking as if they were really serious the company using my services would have done a DBS check, which again, probably because the roles were only temporary never happened. So I would really recommend this route if you have the experience to make this work Hope this helps Hi Hola, I am pleased you managed to find a path through the mind field of disclosure to gain employment. In the end I think success is depending on various factors e.g. attitude of Probation, PPU etc. I did find from 2015 onwards that if the agency did not check then the Client would; or would follow up. I was mainly applying for consultancies and "Blue Chip" company roles. This was for both contract and perm roles. I had various types of offers that were rescinded when I was asked a question that meant I had to disclose. Re agencies, it was hard not to be too vocal, as I did find that even though I was assured no record of my disclosure to them would be retained, I found it was.
Society suggests I must let go of all my expectations but I disagree, as whilst I have a voice, I have hope.
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