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wotsit39 - 19 Mar 17 6:32 PM
james gtr manchester - 6 Mar 17 8:36 PM
Hi,

I'm really struggling at the minute with isolation and loneliness.


Ever since I've been convicted for the download of indecent images of children i'm struggling to maintain a healthy balance of social life.


I spend every day worrying about who I socialise with and how my crime might impact them. I worry about being invited to events that I can't attend, about if I become friends and they have children then I have to disclose. I worry about  where I can socialise, if there could be any issues with my SHPO. I celebrated my birthday last week, and thought about ending my life. I'm really struggling to maintain an even keel, I've given up even looking for work as I see it a waste of time.

Hi James,

Im going through a simillar situation and with a similar conviction. 

Its hard. There's no two ways about it. My sister hasn't spoken to my for 3 years and my relationship with my brother and parents is strained. I was lucky with my conviction in that there was no publicity and I was able to keep my job, which has kept me focussed. I have definitely regressed socially now though, i'm a completely different person and much more reclusive. There are good friends from before conviction that I stay away from now because of the family element. 

At the time of my conviction in 2012 it all seemed like it was never going to end, 2 years probation, 6 month course, 5 year SOPO and 7 years on the SOR felt like it was never going to pass, but its almost passed now. My SOPO finish at the end of this month and my conviction is spent accordingly. Ive been accepted for a new job because I can now say I have no unspent convictions. I met a woman on a dating site, who Ive told about my conviction and she's been understanding and supportive. Ive been through it and I feel im now coming out the other side. 

It is a life changing event but you CAN still live an enjoyable life. How long have you got left on the conviction?

Hope youre enjoying the weekend.





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CC - 7 Mar 17 11:43 PM
james gtr manchester - 6 Mar 17 8:36 PM
Hi,

I'm really struggling at the minute with isolation and loneliness.


Ever since I've been convicted for the download of indecent images of children i'm struggling to maintain a healthy balance of social life.


I spend every day worrying about who I socialise with and how my crime might impact them. I worry about being invited to events that I can't attend, about if I become friends and they have children then I have to disclose. I worry about  where I can socialise, if there could be any issues with my SHPO. I celebrated my birthday last week, and thought about ending my life. I'm really struggling to maintain an even keel, I've given up even looking for work as I see it a waste of time.

Hi James, I can relate to this myself. My offence was years ago now and at the time I couldn't see anyway forward for me. In fact losing my wife, family, friends and job was by far the worst, more so than actually going to prison. Prison did in a way put me with some people to help me through the darkest times but at the other end of it now I have managed to find a really great partner and I have a small business to get me through. It hasn't been easy and there have been times when I didn't want to carry on but here I am.
I never imagined being where I am today, my partner sort of found me and knew about my past from when it happened, My small business? never thought I would be doing what I am (so completely different to before, polar opposite in fact). My point to all this is you can`t foresee whats coming, you have to wait and see it may be something good. 
Yes there will be problems, but you learn to steer a better course to minimise the negatives, I have found a lot of the "problems" where in truth in my head
 ( thats just my personal situation not aimed at anyone else). My register requirements arn`t really an issue for me now. I have adapted I dont over duly worry about them and manage to have some good times so hang on in there.
You do say you worry about being invited to events but at least you are optimistic and say you may be invited to some. have you discussed it with you O,M, ? I did when it was early days and she didn't have much of an issue as long as I "kept myself safe" if you know what I mean. Going to a pub or event isnt the same as going to someones house.
Belated birthday wishes by the way. I hope it gets better for you soon. C.....

well ive had a nitemare that never ends never did any prison but got my life destroyed permanent 3years probation finished conviction spent 2nhalf years ago but , but 7years ago when this happened there was a paper articule saying the pervert should be locked up and its still on the net today , so no prison but life sentence is how i feel the google team refused to remove this articule because of public interest middle of last year grrrr its wrong stinks 
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woundeddog - 19 Apr 17 3:22 PM
CC - 7 Mar 17 11:43 PM
james gtr manchester - 6 Mar 17 8:36 PM
Hi,

I'm really struggling at the minute with isolation and loneliness.


Ever since I've been convicted for the download of indecent images of children i'm struggling to maintain a healthy balance of social life.


I spend every day worrying about who I socialise with and how my crime might impact them. I worry about being invited to events that I can't attend, about if I become friends and they have children then I have to disclose. I worry about  where I can socialise, if there could be any issues with my SHPO. I celebrated my birthday last week, and thought about ending my life. I'm really struggling to maintain an even keel, I've given up even looking for work as I see it a waste of time.

Hi James, I can relate to this myself. My offence was years ago now and at the time I couldn't see anyway forward for me. In fact losing my wife, family, friends and job was by far the worst, more so than actually going to prison. Prison did in a way put me with some people to help me through the darkest times but at the other end of it now I have managed to find a really great partner and I have a small business to get me through. It hasn't been easy and there have been times when I didn't want to carry on but here I am.
I never imagined being where I am today, my partner sort of found me and knew about my past from when it happened, My small business? never thought I would be doing what I am (so completely different to before, polar opposite in fact). My point to all this is you can`t foresee whats coming, you have to wait and see it may be something good. 
Yes there will be problems, but you learn to steer a better course to minimise the negatives, I have found a lot of the "problems" where in truth in my head
 ( thats just my personal situation not aimed at anyone else). My register requirements arn`t really an issue for me now. I have adapted I dont over duly worry about them and manage to have some good times so hang on in there.
You do say you worry about being invited to events but at least you are optimistic and say you may be invited to some. have you discussed it with you O,M, ? I did when it was early days and she didn't have much of an issue as long as I "kept myself safe" if you know what I mean. Going to a pub or event isnt the same as going to someones house.
Belated birthday wishes by the way. I hope it gets better for you soon. C.....

well ive had a nitemare that never ends never did any prison but got my life destroyed permanent 3years probation finished conviction spent 2nhalf years ago but , but 7years ago when this happened there was a paper articule saying the pervert should be locked up and its still on the net today , so no prison but life sentence is how i feel the google team refused to remove this articule because of public interest middle of last year grrrr its wrong stinks 

woundeddog - 19 Apr 17 3:22 PM
CC - 7 Mar 17 11:43 PM
james gtr manchester - 6 Mar 17 8:36 PM
Hi,

I'm really struggling at the minute with isolation and loneliness.


Ever since I've been convicted for the download of indecent images of children i'm struggling to maintain a healthy balance of social life.


I spend every day worrying about who I socialise with and how my crime might impact them. I worry about being invited to events that I can't attend, about if I become friends and they have children then I have to disclose. I worry about  where I can socialise, if there could be any issues with my SHPO. I celebrated my birthday last week, and thought about ending my life. I'm really struggling to maintain an even keel, I've given up even looking for work as I see it a waste of time.

Hi James, I can relate to this myself. My offence was years ago now and at the time I couldn't see anyway forward for me. In fact losing my wife, family, friends and job was by far the worst, more so than actually going to prison. Prison did in a way put me with some people to help me through the darkest times but at the other end of it now I have managed to find a really great partner and I have a small business to get me through. It hasn't been easy and there have been times when I didn't want to carry on but here I am.
I never imagined being where I am today, my partner sort of found me and knew about my past from when it happened, My small business? never thought I would be doing what I am (so completely different to before, polar opposite in fact). My point to all this is you can`t foresee whats coming, you have to wait and see it may be something good. 
Yes there will be problems, but you learn to steer a better course to minimise the negatives, I have found a lot of the "problems" where in truth in my head
 ( thats just my personal situation not aimed at anyone else). My register requirements arn`t really an issue for me now. I have adapted I dont over duly worry about them and manage to have some good times so hang on in there.
You do say you worry about being invited to events but at least you are optimistic and say you may be invited to some. have you discussed it with you O,M, ? I did when it was early days and she didn't have much of an issue as long as I "kept myself safe" if you know what I mean. Going to a pub or event isnt the same as going to someones house.
Belated birthday wishes by the way. I hope it gets better for you soon. C.....

well ive had a nitemare that never ends never did any prison but got my life destroyed permanent 3years probation finished conviction spent 2nhalf years ago but , but 7years ago when this happened there was a paper articule saying the pervert should be locked up and its still on the net today , so no prison but life sentence is how i feel the google team refused to remove this articule because of public interest middle of last year grrrr its wrong stinks 

Sorry to hear about your situation. Have you looked at the Unlock info on this stuff. You can find it here. If you don't fancy trying the Information Commissioner, you could have a go at the 'counteracting negative search results' stuff. Hopefully, you won't have to go as far as changing your name. I hope it works for you.



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Sorry for not getting back but its been a difficult few months. Its interesting how varied SHPOs are...

I've been in hospital twice, and i'm having to move as I have no other way of changing offender manager.

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james gtr manchester - 30 Apr 17 5:29 PM
Sorry for not getting back but its been a difficult few months. Its interesting how varied SHPOs are...

I've been in hospital twice, and i'm having to move as I have no other way of changing offender manager.

Hi james, feel free to have a rant here... Sometimes it helps just to get things off your chest.

Moving because of your OM is a bit extreme, what's the situation? I can understand moving for work or a new scenery etc but it doesn't necessarily mean your new OM will be any better, I never found my OM particular helpfully, "some" PPO or RPO as their now known have been better but I've certainly come across my fair share of "those" who would rather you under lock and key. Don't let them get the better of you, prove them wrong.

SHPO's are an odd thing, I've read so many odd tales from different sources. I was lucky as they tried to give me a ridiculous over-the-top SOPO that would befit a genocide dictator and even the judge told the CPS they were being stupid (or at least that's my take on it, HA). 
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james gtr manchester - 30 Apr 17 5:29 PM
Sorry for not getting back but its been a difficult few months. Its interesting how varied SHPOs are...

I've been in hospital twice, and i'm having to move as I have no other way of changing offender manager.

Hi james, feel free to have a rant here... Sometimes it helps just to get things off your chest.

Moving because of your OM is a bit extreme, what's the situation? I can understand moving for work or a new scenery etc but it doesn't necessarily mean your new OM will be any better, I never found my OM particular helpfully, "some" PPO or RPO as their now known have been better but I've certainly come across my fair share of "those" who would rather you under lock and key. Don't let them get the better of you, prove them wrong.

SHPO's are an odd thing, I've read so many odd tales from different sources. I was lucky as they tried to give me a ridiculous over-the-top SOPO that would befit a genocide dictator and even the judge told the CPS they were being stupid (or at least that's my take on it, HA). 

Hello,

My new offender manager is one of those that would rather have me under lock and key. Even before I met her I was having panic / anxiety attacks. I was in hospital after taking a small overdose of paracetamol / venlafaxine.......

I have asked to be assigned a new offender manager however i'm told no process exists.... Wonderful eh??

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Hi James,

I'm sorry to hear that, I truly hope you can find strength not to end up back in hospital anytime soon.

I think there are complaint avenues you can go down if your OM is doing something wrong in a professional capacity but proving that is another matter, in all honesty it will probably end with some kind of rebuttal on you for fighting the system etc. My advice, however unpleasant it might be would be to play the game, they have a job to do which essentially means ticking a box so nod and agree and let them have there moment of morar superiority. I found with my OM that the moment he was done with me he'd forgotten my name and was busy with the next merry-go-round. 

You would like to think the objective was to help you but it's really just to 'help" you not reoffend, nothing more. I was once told you have to help yourself, only you can fix yourself, only you can make yourself happy etc. It's probably true which is why it's so difficult.
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Hi guys need your advice, my OM came round the other day and I told him I was playing football (usually once a week) at pitches which belong to a school. He said he'd have to disclose my conviction to the school unless I told my friend who I play with? I play at the school at out of school hours- 9pm. And my offence did not involve children. Surely he's not allowed to do this? I really don't want him talking to my friend about my conviction. This just seems so wrong and it's getting me down already. What should I do? I thought he'd need to do a risk assessment first before making a disclosure? Your opinions on this would be much appreciated.
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Normallife - 1 May 17 11:13 PM
Hi guys need your advice, my OM came round the other day and I told him I was playing football (usually once a week) at pitches which belong to a school. He said he'd have to disclose my conviction to the school unless I told my friend who I play with? I play at the school at out of school hours- 9pm. And my offence did not involve children. Surely he's not allowed to do this? I really don't want him talking to my friend about my conviction. This just seems so wrong and it's getting me down already. What should I do? I thought he'd need to do a risk assessment first before making a disclosure? Your opinions on this would be much appreciated.

Hi NL,

I can perhaps understand your OM wanting to disclose to the school if it's was playing for/with the school as they might have safeguarding issues to contend with but if the school is a gym of sorts (i.e. anyone can just rock up and pay to enter) then it's a bit excessive IMO.

I don't quote get the "disclosing to a friend makes it ok" though, who's to say your friend is a pillar of society? Sounds a bit iffy to me perhaps your OM heard the word "school" and just went into arse covering time. Their job used to be "public protection" (take that how you want) but it's now supposed to be "risk management" and that includes the risk to you if you inadvertently disclose to someone. If you're not ready or you are not 99% sure that disclosing to your friend may have a positive outcome then don't do it. 

If your OM is adamant on disclosing to the school you should discuss what that entails, they shouldn't necessarily be name dropping who you are or what you did etc. Personally if you can't find an amicable solution just stop going or find somewhere else to play, perhaps explain to your OM that in future you shall be less forthcoming with information given their attitude.

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link - 30 Apr 17 11:20 PM
Hi James,

I'm sorry to hear that, I truly hope you can find strength not to end up back in hospital anytime soon.

I think there are complaint avenues you can go down if your OM is doing something wrong in a professional capacity but proving that is another matter, in all honesty it will probably end with some kind of rebuttal on you for fighting the system etc. My advice, however unpleasant it might be would be to play the game, they have a job to do which essentially means ticking a box so nod and agree and let them have there moment of morar superiority. I found with my OM that the moment he was done with me he'd forgotten my name and was busy with the next merry-go-round. 

You would like to think the objective was to help you but it's really just to 'help" you not reoffend, nothing more. I was once told you have to help yourself, only you can fix yourself, only you can make yourself happy etc. It's probably true which is why it's so difficult.

@normallife

I can understand this, my new offender manager is a nightmare when it comes to this. She treats everything like a breach unless proven otherwise.

I've had an app on my phone (which I bought and paid for), I installed to basically prevent any issues over where I was / what I was doing. My last offender manager thought it was brillant and trusted it. My new one takes it as a cover up.

Eitherway - this whole SHPO business has turned me in to a bit of a recluse. I wish I could get out more Sad

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