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Post Brexit- impact on travelling to Europe


Post Brexit- impact on travelling to Europe

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AB2014 - 8 Aug 22 9:02 AM
dedalus - 5 Aug 22 11:14 AM
marcovanba - 3 Aug 22 1:55 PM
Confirmation the ETIAS has been postponed to November 2023

https://www.schengenvisainfo.com/news/eu-postpones-launch-of-etias-to-november-2023/

i haved a feeling this thing will never be introduced.
you cannot have this system with each country applying their own set of rules regarding convictions.
I dread to think how much money they have wasted on it so far.

I'm no expert on the EU, but I've known enough bureaucrats in my time to understand how they think. This hasn't been a waste of time and money. Oh, no! It's been the very valuable practical phase of a feasibility study, and well worth every single euro of somebody else's money.

i can't see it being introduced just prior to a xmas period either, which november 2023 would be.
you would think they would start the process during a quieter period....
common sense and all that...
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dedalus - 5 Aug 22 11:14 AM
marcovanba - 3 Aug 22 1:55 PM
Confirmation the ETIAS has been postponed to November 2023

https://www.schengenvisainfo.com/news/eu-postpones-launch-of-etias-to-november-2023/

i haved a feeling this thing will never be introduced.
you cannot have this system with each country applying their own set of rules regarding convictions.
I dread to think how much money they have wasted on it so far.

I'm no expert on the EU, but I've known enough bureaucrats in my time to understand how they think. This hasn't been a waste of time and money. Oh, no! It's been the very valuable practical phase of a feasibility study, and well worth every single euro of somebody else's money.


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marcovanba - 3 Aug 22 1:55 PM
Confirmation the ETIAS has been postponed to November 2023

https://www.schengenvisainfo.com/news/eu-postpones-launch-of-etias-to-november-2023/

i haved a feeling this thing will never be introduced.
you cannot have this system with each country applying their own set of rules regarding convictions.
I dread to think how much money they have wasted on it so far.
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punter99 - 3 Aug 22 2:20 PM
I think it's kind of funny, that everyone using the new EU biometric entry system, will now have to have their fingerprints scanned. This was always an indignity, that was reserved for those suspected of committing a crime, but now everybody is subject to it. 

How long will it be, until everyone traveling abroad, has to give the police 7 days notice of where they are going, I wonder?

There has been a fair amount of talk about this biometric stuff in relation to the fiasco at the Channel crossings recently. The new system will only make that worse, especially as people would almost certainly have to get out of their vehicles to use the "new" e-gates. Apparently, the Port of Dover and the Channel Tunnel did ask for government funding to get the facilities built and ready but were told they could only have £33,000. Eurotunnel said they just don't have room on their site and would need to expand. Of coures, that would probably need a lengthy planning process and lead to all sorts of objections and so on. When it's quiet, if you listen carefully, you can hear the fluttering of all those chickens coming home to roost....

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I think it's kind of funny, that everyone using the new EU biometric entry system, will now have to have their fingerprints scanned. This was always an indignity, that was reserved for those suspected of committing a crime, but now everybody is subject to it. 

How long will it be, until everyone traveling abroad, has to give the police 7 days notice of where they are going, I wonder?
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Confirmation the ETIAS has been postponed to November 2023

https://www.schengenvisainfo.com/news/eu-postpones-launch-of-etias-to-november-2023/

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dedalus - 28 Jul 22 12:26 PM
European Travel Information Authorisation System (europa.eu)

if you scroll down the text you will see that this link states that Etias will now be active from November 2023.

The last postponement had been till May 2023 so it looks like they are unable to actually get this thing started.

So summer 2023 looks ok from a tarvel point of view. 


Hope that's true but to add to the potential woes there was an article in the i newspaper at the weekend that mentioned Etias and EES which I'd never heard of but the latter could start in September 2022 according to this https://www.schengenvisainfo.com/news/eu-to-launch-biometric-entry-exit-system-in-a-few-months/
Presumably ppl who have flags will have to answer questions as well as getting fingerprints and photographs taken , and info gathered could be used re future Etias checks

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Travel10 - 31 Jul 22 8:33 AM
marcovanba - 29 Jul 22 10:42 PM
dedalus - 28 Jul 22 12:26 PM
European Travel Information Authorisation System (europa.eu)

if you scroll down the text you will see that this link states that Etias will now be active from November 2023.

The last postponement had been till May 2023 so it looks like they are unable to actually get this thing started.

So summer 2023 looks ok from a tarvel point of view. 


This would be good as Im looking at going to spain for 2 months next september / october

Also, if it kicks in Nov 2023 I will be close to 9 years since the date of my conviction.... when it gets to 10 I will feel a lot more comfortable

Though, as has been mentioned, whether it goes ahead fully or not, who knows!!!


I believe the question states 'Have you been convicted of any criminal offence listed in the Annex (see below) over the previous 20 years'


When the ETIAS regulations were passed, the disclosure period was extended. So, it will be 15 years for most offences, and 25 years for terrorist offences. Of course, there is still a slim chance that these delays will just keep kicking the can down the road until they don't bother anymore.


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marcovanba - 29 Jul 22 10:42 PM
dedalus - 28 Jul 22 12:26 PM
European Travel Information Authorisation System (europa.eu)

if you scroll down the text you will see that this link states that Etias will now be active from November 2023.

The last postponement had been till May 2023 so it looks like they are unable to actually get this thing started.

So summer 2023 looks ok from a tarvel point of view. 


This would be good as Im looking at going to spain for 2 months next september / october

Also, if it kicks in Nov 2023 I will be close to 9 years since the date of my conviction.... when it gets to 10 I will feel a lot more comfortable

Though, as has been mentioned, whether it goes ahead fully or not, who knows!!!


I believe the question states 'Have you been convicted of any criminal offence listed in the Annex (see below) over the previous 20 years'


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