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Lets List Countries That Refuse Entry to people with a SOR


Lets List Countries That Refuse Entry to people with a SOR

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JASB - 19 Jul 19 11:26 AM
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If you have a sex offence and declare you are going to any high risk area then the Police will stop you.

To me it has nothing to do with any evidence "against you" or "for you" it is Britain wanting to be seen as "the world's leader" against sex offenders.
They do not believe in rehabilitation, but do believe in stopping any form of social/quality of life as they believe that increases the percentage chances of you offending else creating a scenario for you to make a mistake and so can be locked up again; where they want to put all offenders but especially sex offenders.

Remember society and the politicians do not believe in rehabilitation of  sex offenders or in the term "Ex-Sex Offender.



What do you classify as a "high risk area"? 
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AB2014 - 6 Aug 19 8:54 AM
Monkos - 5 Aug 19 5:01 PM
More bad advice on this thread, no one at Unlock bothering to correct it either. If in doubt, get a lawyer. Even for people on the SOR, there is very little the police can do to interfere with your travel.

Which is the advice that you think is bad, and when did you inform Unlock to tell them that and ask them to correct it?

Months ago, but they don't give a shit.
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Monkos - 5 Aug 19 5:01 PM
More bad advice on this thread, no one at Unlock bothering to correct it either. If in doubt, get a lawyer. Even for people on the SOR, there is very little the police can do to interfere with your travel.

Which is the advice that you think is bad, and when did you inform Unlock to tell them that and ask them to correct it?
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More bad advice on this thread, no one at Unlock bothering to correct it either. If in doubt, get a lawyer. Even for people on the SOR, there is very little the police can do to interfere with your travel.
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JASB - 19 Jul 19 11:26 AM
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If you have a sex offence and declare you are going to any high risk area then the Police will stop you.

To me it has nothing to do with any evidence "against you" or "for you" it is Britain wanting to be seen as "the world's leader" against sex offenders.
They do not believe in rehabilitation, but do believe in stopping any form of social/quality of life as they believe that increases the percentage chances of you offending else creating a scenario for you to make a mistake and so can be locked up again; where they want to put all offenders but especially sex offenders.

Remember society and the politicians do not believe in rehabilitation of  sex offenders or in the term "Ex-Sex Offender.



The police don't have to believe in rehabilitation because it isn't part of their remit. They are there to prevent and detect crime, as part of safeguarding the public. Officially, probation are there for rehabilitation, so once you have finished your licence period, there is no more rehabilitation. I have said before on other threads that you can be an ex-burglar, ex-drug dealer, but not an ex-sex offender.
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Hi
If you have a sex offence and declare you are going to any high risk area then the Police will stop you.

To me it has nothing to do with any evidence "against you" or "for you" it is Britain wanting to be seen as "the world's leader" against sex offenders.
They do not believe in rehabilitation, but do believe in stopping any form of social/quality of life as they believe that increases the percentage chances of you offending else creating a scenario for you to make a mistake and so can be locked up again; where they want to put all offenders but especially sex offenders.

Remember society and the politicians do not believe in rehabilitation of  sex offenders or in the term "Ex-Sex Offender.



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RMUK - 6 Jun 19 2:45 PM
I am on SOR for 3 years and community supervision order for downloading related offences. I get seen by PPU once every 6 months and my MAPPA social worker monthly.

I have booked to go to Dominican Republic later this year. I have read and read online and I cannot find any sources of a UK Citizen being denied entry to Dominican Republic while on SOR.

My PPU officer seems to think it is a risk but on the other hand he think's it will be fine? His only source of information is "it's always a risk when you travel outside EU as you dont have a right to enter any non-EU country".

I have flat-out asked whether he will issue a Green Notice to Interpol, but I have not yet got a straight answer. In fact, he says that it is outwith his remit and all he does is fill in a form and send it to the "international unit" and it is them who carry out the risk assessment and make the call.

I am very much hoping that as long as a Green Notice is not issued, then I will be fine with Dominican.

I've seen someone on here be refused entry to Mexico, but Mexico are part of the US "Angel Watch"/ "Megan's Law" programme so they notify everyone.

I've attached 2 documents  I found online which explain in detail what the police processes are.

It says if you are travelling to a "high-risk" country in terms of CSE, they may send a green notice regardless of whether you are low risk or not.

Any insight of this destination would be greatly greatly appreciated!

PS. If I get refused, what are the chances that my travel insurance would cover it? Given that it is out of my control?

Please write and let us know what happened
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BenS - 11 Jun 19 8:16 AM
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RMUK - 6 Jun 19 2:45 PM
It says if you are travelling to a "high-risk" country in terms of CSE, they may send a green notice regardless of whether you are low risk or not.

I have travelled to Thailand while on the SOR. A high-risk country for CSE in anyone's book I think.

I went there for a friend's wedding. I fully notified and told my police person about the circumstances of the trip and where exactly I would be going. It was in a quiet area in the north of Thailand, far from the tourist areas in Bangkok and southern Thailand where dodgy stuff goes on. The officer didn't express any reservations when I told him, filled in the form apparently unconcerned. I didn't bother asking about a green notice as I knew he would not give a straight answer. Got in no problem, so either no green notice or poor IT on their side!

Also, thanks for those two links, they are both excellent, I hadn't come across them before. Very useful, thanks!

I have read that Thailand DOES NOT ask on a landing card about convictions. I would love to travel around Thailand again for a holiday, but scared of being refused.
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Monkos - 28 Aug 18 1:10 PM
Harry53 - 19 Feb 18 5:00 PM
(SOR = Sexual offenders register)
I am writing from the UK and I have a 10 year SOR.
One spin off from this is the restriction of travel. So I thought why don't we all build a listings of countries that are quite rightly protecting children from abusers. I will start the list off but please add to it. Some cojuntries are obvious but others like Japan may still ask the question which pose problems. I want to hear from anyone who has in the last year, known of any problems gaining entry to countries, or that have refused entry. 

There seems to be no listing that is up-to-date, so I thought this would be useful.

For example, I was told that Indonesia was ok to visit, but on posting on an expats forum, it seems most likely not. So here goes....countries I am 95% sure will refuse entry to anyone on the SOR:
1  THAILAND
2  INDIA
3  SRI LANKA
4  PHILIPPINES
5  MALAYSIA
6  CAMBODIA
7  INDONESIA
8  VIETNAM
9  SINGAPORE
10 USA
11 AUSTRALIA

Some countries like NEW ZEALAND ask if you have ever been refused entry to a country, which means it is best to apply for a visa and disclose details.

Please add to this list as having experienced being refused entry into the Philippines just 8 weeks after visiting, I feel it is of the utmost importance to do research before booking a flight or holiday. To be turned away is the most stressful and embarrassing experience in my entire life. Do NOT LET IT HAPPEN TO YOU.

Having been to many of those countries while on SOR I can tell you that they have no way of knowing you're on the SOR unless you tell them yourself. The only way you'd be turned away from Philippines for example is if you declared your conviction.
Well I went to the Philippines in 2017 in February, then wanted to return to see my friend and family for a birthday, and I had the biggest shock of my life when just 8 weeks later, I was refused entry. I did not tell them but someone at Interpol or the CPU made sure a Green card was issued. What bugs me is that if they intend to issue a Green card then, for Human rights only, tell the person travelling. I cannot imagine any immigration officer allowing someone in on a Green Card
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RMUK - 12 Jun 19 1:32 PM
BenS - 11 Jun 19 8:16 AM
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RMUK - 6 Jun 19 2:45 PM
It says if you are travelling to a "high-risk" country in terms of CSE, they may send a green notice regardless of whether you are low risk or not.

I have travelled to Thailand while on the SOR. A high-risk country for CSE in anyone's book I think.

I went there for a friend's wedding. I fully notified and told my police person about the circumstances of the trip and where exactly I would be going. It was in a quiet area in the north of Thailand, far from the tourist areas in Bangkok and southern Thailand where dodgy stuff goes on. The officer didn't express any reservations when I told him, filled in the form apparently unconcerned. I didn't bother asking about a green notice as I knew he would not give a straight answer. Got in no problem, so either no green notice or poor IT on their side!

Also, thanks for those two links, they are both excellent, I hadn't come across them before. Very useful, thanks!

How long ago was this roughly?

2014.
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