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+x+xAs part of my SHPO the police are entitled to install monitoring software on my devices. After a long time of having no monitoring software they have now installed monitoring software on my devices and I have to say I am unhappy about the software on my Android Tablet. It appears that screen cast is constantly running on my tablet and it looks like everything that I do is being monitored not just my internet history. So any family picture I look at, family video, online video, book, online banking, any email I read or write etc is all being monitored. My assumption was that they were only allowed to record my internet history. My offence is internet based and my SHPO only states I must register the device and not delete internet history or use incognito mode. I can't really see what they have installed on my laptop and what it is doing but I dread to think Does anyone have any experience of this and has anyone challenged the police when they install software on their devices? I had my first visit since the software was installed on my laptop. There was only one report that the software made to the police. At some point I had changed the background picture of my computer to include a picture of the my children on a family day out. The picture was totally innocent but this was picked up by the software. When I asked what the software was looking for I was told anything illegal, but obviously this picture was not illegal and I have contact approved with my children by Social Services. Is it in my rights to ask what the software is actually monitoring? The SHPO just says risk management software can be installed which is very wide ranging and it does not define what it can look for. The restrictions on my SHPO is just that I cannot delete internet history, use incognito browsing etc So it looks like the risk management software is looking at more than just internet history. Whilst this is probably allowed under the banner of 'risk management software' I am not sure it is in the spirit of the SHPO. I am seriously considering talking to a solicitor about this. I did get the feedback that no one else had any problems with the software and I was only the person questioning it (not sure I believed that!) So my phone had the monitoring software installed on it at my last visit and I realise what a pile of rubbish it is. Every now and again the software just randomly stops. So I have to restart it which is certainly something I don't believe I should be doing. To me it should just work and I shouldn't have to monitor the software to make sure it is working. Also when the phone starts I have to manually confirm that the software can record my screen. Again I don't believe I should be doing this. I had these same issues on my tablet and successfully argued for the software to be removed but they don't seem so willing to do this on my phone. It maybe because my offence was made on a phone and they see it as greater risk me having one.
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+x+x+x+x+xAs part of my SHPO the police are entitled to install monitoring software on my devices. After a long time of having no monitoring software they have now installed monitoring software on my devices and I have to say I am unhappy about the software on my Android Tablet. It appears that screen cast is constantly running on my tablet and it looks like everything that I do is being monitored not just my internet history. So any family picture I look at, family video, online video, book, online banking, any email I read or write etc is all being monitored. My assumption was that they were only allowed to record my internet history. My offence is internet based and my SHPO only states I must register the device and not delete internet history or use incognito mode. I can't really see what they have installed on my laptop and what it is doing but I dread to think Does anyone have any experience of this and has anyone challenged the police when they install software on their devices? I had my first visit since the software was installed on my laptop. There was only one report that the software made to the police. At some point I had changed the background picture of my computer to include a picture of the my children on a family day out. The picture was totally innocent but this was picked up by the software. When I asked what the software was looking for I was told anything illegal, but obviously this picture was not illegal and I have contact approved with my children by Social Services. Is it in my rights to ask what the software is actually monitoring? The SHPO just says risk management software can be installed which is very wide ranging and it does not define what it can look for. The restrictions on my SHPO is just that I cannot delete internet history, use incognito browsing etc So it looks like the risk management software is looking at more than just internet history. Whilst this is probably allowed under the banner of 'risk management software' I am not sure it is in the spirit of the SHPO. I am seriously considering talking to a solicitor about this. I did get the feedback that no one else had any problems with the software and I was only the person questioning it (not sure I believed that!) I did query it robustly on their first visit so I think I went on their naughty list for a while for being "obstructive". However, they did pass me on the phone to a techie so I could ask a few questions. Assuming it's Guardware eSafe, the software does a few things which I discovered inadvertently whilst trying to clear space on a full hard drive. This may not be all the functions, because I stopped when I ended up in the folders as I didn't want to be accused of trying to tamper with it, which I wasn't. It has a keylogger. I think, however, it only monitors browser based keystrokes, but I could be wrong on that. There is also a "snapshot" feature which monitors suspicious files, saves then to a hidden directory and uploads either the file or a "fingerprint" to the police's Guardware server. It seemed to have saved some You Tube videos and a smattering of photos on mine. The server produces a prioritised "risk" list. Not sure if all forces do this but I had to change all my device names to ones that clearly were constructed so that they could do a search of the list to zero in on an individual without them having to keep an exhaustive list of computer names mapped to an offender. There is also this: Digital intelligence software aids sex offender monitoring (corrections1.com) I haven't had any monitoring software installed so this might be a silly question but you mentioned "...and uploads either the file or a fingerprint..." Maybe it's just me being difficult for the sake of it but say you have a limited internet package, who is paying for the data use in uploading it? Similarly mobile data if it's installed on a mobile. I know the answer, obviously, but still seems a bit cheeky. Typically the screengrab file will be between 50kb and 350kb. Tiny. Think yourself lucky that you do not live in the USA. The SO there, are required to take regular polygraph tests and have to pay for them too, at around $150 each time. hi, We copy most things off the yanks so time will tell 
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+x+x+x+xAs part of my SHPO the police are entitled to install monitoring software on my devices. After a long time of having no monitoring software they have now installed monitoring software on my devices and I have to say I am unhappy about the software on my Android Tablet. It appears that screen cast is constantly running on my tablet and it looks like everything that I do is being monitored not just my internet history. So any family picture I look at, family video, online video, book, online banking, any email I read or write etc is all being monitored. My assumption was that they were only allowed to record my internet history. My offence is internet based and my SHPO only states I must register the device and not delete internet history or use incognito mode. I can't really see what they have installed on my laptop and what it is doing but I dread to think Does anyone have any experience of this and has anyone challenged the police when they install software on their devices? I had my first visit since the software was installed on my laptop. There was only one report that the software made to the police. At some point I had changed the background picture of my computer to include a picture of the my children on a family day out. The picture was totally innocent but this was picked up by the software. When I asked what the software was looking for I was told anything illegal, but obviously this picture was not illegal and I have contact approved with my children by Social Services. Is it in my rights to ask what the software is actually monitoring? The SHPO just says risk management software can be installed which is very wide ranging and it does not define what it can look for. The restrictions on my SHPO is just that I cannot delete internet history, use incognito browsing etc So it looks like the risk management software is looking at more than just internet history. Whilst this is probably allowed under the banner of 'risk management software' I am not sure it is in the spirit of the SHPO. I am seriously considering talking to a solicitor about this. I did get the feedback that no one else had any problems with the software and I was only the person questioning it (not sure I believed that!) I did query it robustly on their first visit so I think I went on their naughty list for a while for being "obstructive". However, they did pass me on the phone to a techie so I could ask a few questions. Assuming it's Guardware eSafe, the software does a few things which I discovered inadvertently whilst trying to clear space on a full hard drive. This may not be all the functions, because I stopped when I ended up in the folders as I didn't want to be accused of trying to tamper with it, which I wasn't. It has a keylogger. I think, however, it only monitors browser based keystrokes, but I could be wrong on that. There is also a "snapshot" feature which monitors suspicious files, saves then to a hidden directory and uploads either the file or a "fingerprint" to the police's Guardware server. It seemed to have saved some You Tube videos and a smattering of photos on mine. The server produces a prioritised "risk" list. Not sure if all forces do this but I had to change all my device names to ones that clearly were constructed so that they could do a search of the list to zero in on an individual without them having to keep an exhaustive list of computer names mapped to an offender. There is also this: Digital intelligence software aids sex offender monitoring (corrections1.com) I haven't had any monitoring software installed so this might be a silly question but you mentioned "...and uploads either the file or a fingerprint..." Maybe it's just me being difficult for the sake of it but say you have a limited internet package, who is paying for the data use in uploading it? Similarly mobile data if it's installed on a mobile. I know the answer, obviously, but still seems a bit cheeky. Typically the screengrab file will be between 50kb and 350kb. Tiny. Think yourself lucky that you do not live in the USA. The SO there, are required to take regular polygraph tests and have to pay for them too, at around $150 each time.
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+x+x+xAs part of my SHPO the police are entitled to install monitoring software on my devices. After a long time of having no monitoring software they have now installed monitoring software on my devices and I have to say I am unhappy about the software on my Android Tablet. It appears that screen cast is constantly running on my tablet and it looks like everything that I do is being monitored not just my internet history. So any family picture I look at, family video, online video, book, online banking, any email I read or write etc is all being monitored. My assumption was that they were only allowed to record my internet history. My offence is internet based and my SHPO only states I must register the device and not delete internet history or use incognito mode. I can't really see what they have installed on my laptop and what it is doing but I dread to think Does anyone have any experience of this and has anyone challenged the police when they install software on their devices? I had my first visit since the software was installed on my laptop. There was only one report that the software made to the police. At some point I had changed the background picture of my computer to include a picture of the my children on a family day out. The picture was totally innocent but this was picked up by the software. When I asked what the software was looking for I was told anything illegal, but obviously this picture was not illegal and I have contact approved with my children by Social Services. Is it in my rights to ask what the software is actually monitoring? The SHPO just says risk management software can be installed which is very wide ranging and it does not define what it can look for. The restrictions on my SHPO is just that I cannot delete internet history, use incognito browsing etc So it looks like the risk management software is looking at more than just internet history. Whilst this is probably allowed under the banner of 'risk management software' I am not sure it is in the spirit of the SHPO. I am seriously considering talking to a solicitor about this. I did get the feedback that no one else had any problems with the software and I was only the person questioning it (not sure I believed that!) I did query it robustly on their first visit so I think I went on their naughty list for a while for being "obstructive". However, they did pass me on the phone to a techie so I could ask a few questions. Assuming it's Guardware eSafe, the software does a few things which I discovered inadvertently whilst trying to clear space on a full hard drive. This may not be all the functions, because I stopped when I ended up in the folders as I didn't want to be accused of trying to tamper with it, which I wasn't. It has a keylogger. I think, however, it only monitors browser based keystrokes, but I could be wrong on that. There is also a "snapshot" feature which monitors suspicious files, saves then to a hidden directory and uploads either the file or a "fingerprint" to the police's Guardware server. It seemed to have saved some You Tube videos and a smattering of photos on mine. The server produces a prioritised "risk" list. Not sure if all forces do this but I had to change all my device names to ones that clearly were constructed so that they could do a search of the list to zero in on an individual without them having to keep an exhaustive list of computer names mapped to an offender. There is also this: Digital intelligence software aids sex offender monitoring (corrections1.com) Hi Remember this has been designed and built by humans so will start with a very cautious "capture all" approach to have got the Government contract! It is like Facial recognition software that is constantly been tested and faults found e.g. faults with recognizing certain skin tones. The public are the test subjects hence complaints regarding Police action when people try to hide their faces in a test area. This software will be under constant review for "design quality" and success rates; however unlike facial recognition software, society will not support the "victims" interrogated by the software mistakes. Eventually (if not already) A.I. will be costed into the budget and then "Skynet" will take over  Remember how many years it took the Post Office shop owners to win their claim the software was not working correctly!
Society suggests I must let go of all my expectations but I disagree, as whilst I have a voice, I have hope.
Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope is for tomorrow else what is left if you remove a mans hope.
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+x+x+x+xAs part of my SHPO the police are entitled to install monitoring software on my devices. After a long time of having no monitoring software they have now installed monitoring software on my devices and I have to say I am unhappy about the software on my Android Tablet. It appears that screen cast is constantly running on my tablet and it looks like everything that I do is being monitored not just my internet history. So any family picture I look at, family video, online video, book, online banking, any email I read or write etc is all being monitored. My assumption was that they were only allowed to record my internet history. My offence is internet based and my SHPO only states I must register the device and not delete internet history or use incognito mode. I can't really see what they have installed on my laptop and what it is doing but I dread to think Does anyone have any experience of this and has anyone challenged the police when they install software on their devices? I had my first visit since the software was installed on my laptop. There was only one report that the software made to the police. At some point I had changed the background picture of my computer to include a picture of the my children on a family day out. The picture was totally innocent but this was picked up by the software. When I asked what the software was looking for I was told anything illegal, but obviously this picture was not illegal and I have contact approved with my children by Social Services. Is it in my rights to ask what the software is actually monitoring? The SHPO just says risk management software can be installed which is very wide ranging and it does not define what it can look for. The restrictions on my SHPO is just that I cannot delete internet history, use incognito browsing etc So it looks like the risk management software is looking at more than just internet history. Whilst this is probably allowed under the banner of 'risk management software' I am not sure it is in the spirit of the SHPO. I am seriously considering talking to a solicitor about this. I did get the feedback that no one else had any problems with the software and I was only the person questioning it (not sure I believed that!) I did query it robustly on their first visit so I think I went on their naughty list for a while for being "obstructive". However, they did pass me on the phone to a techie so I could ask a few questions. Assuming it's Guardware eSafe, the software does a few things which I discovered inadvertently whilst trying to clear space on a full hard drive. This may not be all the functions, because I stopped when I ended up in the folders as I didn't want to be accused of trying to tamper with it, which I wasn't. It has a keylogger. I think, however, it only monitors browser based keystrokes, but I could be wrong on that. There is also a "snapshot" feature which monitors suspicious files, saves then to a hidden directory and uploads either the file or a "fingerprint" to the police's Guardware server. It seemed to have saved some You Tube videos and a smattering of photos on mine. The server produces a prioritised "risk" list. Not sure if all forces do this but I had to change all my device names to ones that clearly were constructed so that they could do a search of the list to zero in on an individual without them having to keep an exhaustive list of computer names mapped to an offender. There is also this: Digital intelligence software aids sex offender monitoring (corrections1.com) I haven't had any monitoring software installed so this might be a silly question but you mentioned "...and uploads either the file or a fingerprint..." Maybe it's just me being difficult for the sake of it but say you have a limited internet package, who is paying for the data use in uploading it? Similarly mobile data if it's installed on a mobile. I know the answer, obviously, but still seems a bit cheeky. If the software has been design efficiently the amount of data transferred will be very small. But yes you will be paying for them to monitor your "activity"... who says "Crime does not pay" as we seem to be "paying" quite a lot.
Society suggests I must let go of all my expectations but I disagree, as whilst I have a voice, I have hope.
Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope is for tomorrow else what is left if you remove a mans hope.
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+x+x+xAs part of my SHPO the police are entitled to install monitoring software on my devices. After a long time of having no monitoring software they have now installed monitoring software on my devices and I have to say I am unhappy about the software on my Android Tablet. It appears that screen cast is constantly running on my tablet and it looks like everything that I do is being monitored not just my internet history. So any family picture I look at, family video, online video, book, online banking, any email I read or write etc is all being monitored. My assumption was that they were only allowed to record my internet history. My offence is internet based and my SHPO only states I must register the device and not delete internet history or use incognito mode. I can't really see what they have installed on my laptop and what it is doing but I dread to think Does anyone have any experience of this and has anyone challenged the police when they install software on their devices? I had my first visit since the software was installed on my laptop. There was only one report that the software made to the police. At some point I had changed the background picture of my computer to include a picture of the my children on a family day out. The picture was totally innocent but this was picked up by the software. When I asked what the software was looking for I was told anything illegal, but obviously this picture was not illegal and I have contact approved with my children by Social Services. Is it in my rights to ask what the software is actually monitoring? The SHPO just says risk management software can be installed which is very wide ranging and it does not define what it can look for. The restrictions on my SHPO is just that I cannot delete internet history, use incognito browsing etc So it looks like the risk management software is looking at more than just internet history. Whilst this is probably allowed under the banner of 'risk management software' I am not sure it is in the spirit of the SHPO. I am seriously considering talking to a solicitor about this. I did get the feedback that no one else had any problems with the software and I was only the person questioning it (not sure I believed that!) I did query it robustly on their first visit so I think I went on their naughty list for a while for being "obstructive". However, they did pass me on the phone to a techie so I could ask a few questions. Assuming it's Guardware eSafe, the software does a few things which I discovered inadvertently whilst trying to clear space on a full hard drive. This may not be all the functions, because I stopped when I ended up in the folders as I didn't want to be accused of trying to tamper with it, which I wasn't. It has a keylogger. I think, however, it only monitors browser based keystrokes, but I could be wrong on that. There is also a "snapshot" feature which monitors suspicious files, saves then to a hidden directory and uploads either the file or a "fingerprint" to the police's Guardware server. It seemed to have saved some You Tube videos and a smattering of photos on mine. The server produces a prioritised "risk" list. Not sure if all forces do this but I had to change all my device names to ones that clearly were constructed so that they could do a search of the list to zero in on an individual without them having to keep an exhaustive list of computer names mapped to an offender. There is also this: Digital intelligence software aids sex offender monitoring (corrections1.com) I haven't had any monitoring software installed so this might be a silly question but you mentioned "...and uploads either the file or a fingerprint..." Maybe it's just me being difficult for the sake of it but say you have a limited internet package, who is paying for the data use in uploading it? Similarly mobile data if it's installed on a mobile. I know the answer, obviously, but still seems a bit cheeky.
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+x+xAs part of my SHPO the police are entitled to install monitoring software on my devices. After a long time of having no monitoring software they have now installed monitoring software on my devices and I have to say I am unhappy about the software on my Android Tablet. It appears that screen cast is constantly running on my tablet and it looks like everything that I do is being monitored not just my internet history. So any family picture I look at, family video, online video, book, online banking, any email I read or write etc is all being monitored. My assumption was that they were only allowed to record my internet history. My offence is internet based and my SHPO only states I must register the device and not delete internet history or use incognito mode. I can't really see what they have installed on my laptop and what it is doing but I dread to think Does anyone have any experience of this and has anyone challenged the police when they install software on their devices? I had my first visit since the software was installed on my laptop. There was only one report that the software made to the police. At some point I had changed the background picture of my computer to include a picture of the my children on a family day out. The picture was totally innocent but this was picked up by the software. When I asked what the software was looking for I was told anything illegal, but obviously this picture was not illegal and I have contact approved with my children by Social Services. Is it in my rights to ask what the software is actually monitoring? The SHPO just says risk management software can be installed which is very wide ranging and it does not define what it can look for. The restrictions on my SHPO is just that I cannot delete internet history, use incognito browsing etc So it looks like the risk management software is looking at more than just internet history. Whilst this is probably allowed under the banner of 'risk management software' I am not sure it is in the spirit of the SHPO. I am seriously considering talking to a solicitor about this. I did get the feedback that no one else had any problems with the software and I was only the person questioning it (not sure I believed that!) I did query it robustly on their first visit so I think I went on their naughty list for a while for being "obstructive". However, they did pass me on the phone to a techie so I could ask a few questions. Assuming it's Guardware eSafe, the software does a few things which I discovered inadvertently whilst trying to clear space on a full hard drive. This may not be all the functions, because I stopped when I ended up in the folders as I didn't want to be accused of trying to tamper with it, which I wasn't. It has a keylogger. I think, however, it only monitors browser based keystrokes, but I could be wrong on that. There is also a "snapshot" feature which monitors suspicious files, saves then to a hidden directory and uploads either the file or a "fingerprint" to the police's Guardware server. It seemed to have saved some You Tube videos and a smattering of photos on mine. The server produces a prioritised "risk" list. Not sure if all forces do this but I had to change all my device names to ones that clearly were constructed so that they could do a search of the list to zero in on an individual without them having to keep an exhaustive list of computer names mapped to an offender. There is also this: Digital intelligence software aids sex offender monitoring (corrections1.com)
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+xAs part of my SHPO the police are entitled to install monitoring software on my devices. After a long time of having no monitoring software they have now installed monitoring software on my devices and I have to say I am unhappy about the software on my Android Tablet. It appears that screen cast is constantly running on my tablet and it looks like everything that I do is being monitored not just my internet history. So any family picture I look at, family video, online video, book, online banking, any email I read or write etc is all being monitored. My assumption was that they were only allowed to record my internet history. My offence is internet based and my SHPO only states I must register the device and not delete internet history or use incognito mode. I can't really see what they have installed on my laptop and what it is doing but I dread to think Does anyone have any experience of this and has anyone challenged the police when they install software on their devices? I had my first visit since the software was installed on my laptop. There was only one report that the software made to the police. At some point I had changed the background picture of my computer to include a picture of the my children on a family day out. The picture was totally innocent but this was picked up by the software. When I asked what the software was looking for I was told anything illegal, but obviously this picture was not illegal and I have contact approved with my children by Social Services. Is it in my rights to ask what the software is actually monitoring? The SHPO just says risk management software can be installed which is very wide ranging and it does not define what it can look for. The restrictions on my SHPO is just that I cannot delete internet history, use incognito browsing etc So it looks like the risk management software is looking at more than just internet history. Whilst this is probably allowed under the banner of 'risk management software' I am not sure it is in the spirit of the SHPO. I am seriously considering talking to a solicitor about this. I did get the feedback that no one else had any problems with the software and I was only the person questioning it (not sure I believed that!)
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+xWith regards to my laptop I am now getting some sites which are not accessible. I have Guardware installed and for example I can't access the currys website on my laptop. It seems that this is protected who believe the software to be malicious. It kind of worries me a little that a site can tell the software is running. To be honest I think it thinks it is a bot. Does anyone else have a similar problem True. I just didn't twig it was Guardware causing it, but it makes sense. I can access the Currys site with no problems now.
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+xAs part of my SHPO the police are entitled to install monitoring software on my devices. After a long time of having no monitoring software they have now installed monitoring software on my devices and I have to say I am unhappy about the software on my Android Tablet. It appears that screen cast is constantly running on my tablet and it looks like everything that I do is being monitored not just my internet history. So any family picture I look at, family video, online video, book, online banking, any email I read or write etc is all being monitored. My assumption was that they were only allowed to record my internet history. My offence is internet based and my SHPO only states I must register the device and not delete internet history or use incognito mode. I can't really see what they have installed on my laptop and what it is doing but I dread to think Does anyone have any experience of this and has anyone challenged the police when they install software on their devices? I thought I would update this as it has now been a couple of months since I started with the software With regards to my Tablet my Police Supervising Officer has agreed that I can this removed from my tablet. I did complain to her about it as the software kept stopping and I couldn't watch Now TV on it as it thought I was trying to stream it. She agreed that it was impacting on my daily use of the tablet and agreed to have it removed. This was all over the phone so I did email her to confirm the telephone conversation which she confirmed back...experience has taught me to always get everything in writing! With regards to my laptop I am now getting some sites which are not accessible. I have Guardware installed and for example I can't access the currys website on my laptop. It seems that this is protected who believe the software to be malicious. It kind of worries me a little that a site can tell the software is running. To be honest I think it thinks it is a bot. Does anyone else have a similar problem
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