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AB2014
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+xYeah it got deleted and the come up with a different number at the end. Honestly chat gpt has got me this far. It has worded the emails in a way I could never dream of. Crazy to think people pay that other company hundreds of pounds to do this. When ive done it for free. So I have sent off the new link and asked if they could delete any varations. Its worth a try ill just what they say. Otherwise ill be playing whack a mole for a while. I just want this nightmare to be over. You should be able to trust a decent AI to help you write emails and letters, but you can't always rely on them for information and advice. Because they rely on what they find online, they end up using a mixture of truth, half-truth and BS.
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If you are to punish a man retributively you must injure him. If you are to reform him you must improve him. And men are not improved by injuries. (George Bernard Shaw)
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Aradia
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Yeah it got deleted and the come up with a different number at the end. Honestly chat gpt has got me this far. It has worded the emails in a way I could never dream of. Crazy to think people pay that other company hundreds of pounds to do this. When ive done it for free. So I have sent off the new link and asked if they could delete any varations. Its worth a try ill just what they say. Otherwise ill be playing whack a mole for a while. I just want this nightmare to be over.
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khafka
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+x+x+xWell I waited a week for google to get back to me. They asked for my documents. Which I scanned and sent off. But I just thought id type more information than my name and of course a red rose link appeared. Ive replied to the email with the link and asked them to de list it. I did this whole thing using AI for help writing it out. Its been fantastic. It worries me that previous post in here say that it keeps popping up. I dont really understand woodpress or the reason explained. I just hope mine doesnt come up again and I hope google removes it in the first place. Obviously I don't want to give any potential false hope but I will say that with each passing day my theory of the multiple Red Rose links is proving true. There have been no new links for me in months now as I feel I have 'exhausted' the assigned ID's attached to me. If it helps, here are all the IDs that were linked to me:  I actually told chat gpt about what you said and it said that you dont need to do any of what you have been doing there is an easy way. I dont know what this really means. But maybe it will make more sense to you. You don’t need to send anything now — wait for their reply first. But if new versions show up, reply in the same email thread and say something like: I have noticed multiple URL variations of the same page appearing in search results (for example, different category/tag parameters). As these all relate to the same underlying content already reviewed, I would be grateful if delisting could apply to all URL variations of this page.
This signals to the reviewer: same article same legal basis same previous decision
They understand exactly what you mean. Yeah, I tried that. Didn't work. I wouldn't trust ChatGPT/AI for stuff like this.
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tedstriker
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+x+x+xWell I waited a week for google to get back to me. They asked for my documents. Which I scanned and sent off. But I just thought id type more information than my name and of course a red rose link appeared. Ive replied to the email with the link and asked them to de list it. I did this whole thing using AI for help writing it out. Its been fantastic. It worries me that previous post in here say that it keeps popping up. I dont really understand woodpress or the reason explained. I just hope mine doesnt come up again and I hope google removes it in the first place. Obviously I don't want to give any potential false hope but I will say that with each passing day my theory of the multiple Red Rose links is proving true. There have been no new links for me in months now as I feel I have 'exhausted' the assigned ID's attached to me. If it helps, here are all the IDs that were linked to me:  I actually told chat gpt about what you said and it said that you dont need to do any of what you have been doing there is an easy way. I dont know what this really means. But maybe it will make more sense to you. You don’t need to send anything now — wait for their reply first. But if new versions show up, reply in the same email thread and say something like: I have noticed multiple URL variations of the same page appearing in search results (for example, different category/tag parameters). As these all relate to the same underlying content already reviewed, I would be grateful if delisting could apply to all URL variations of this page.
This signals to the reviewer: same article same legal basis same previous decision
They understand exactly what you mean. The problem is that Google won't delist anything that isn't indexed. All of those links will point to the same article and Google picks the most relevant one to show, the "canonical" link. Once you've had that removed Google will then work it's way down the list to the next most relevant one. Replying to the original removal email with that URL will remove that too, then the next one will pop up. It's a long process but with an end point eventually.
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Aradia
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+x+xWell I waited a week for google to get back to me. They asked for my documents. Which I scanned and sent off. But I just thought id type more information than my name and of course a red rose link appeared. Ive replied to the email with the link and asked them to de list it. I did this whole thing using AI for help writing it out. Its been fantastic. It worries me that previous post in here say that it keeps popping up. I dont really understand woodpress or the reason explained. I just hope mine doesnt come up again and I hope google removes it in the first place. Obviously I don't want to give any potential false hope but I will say that with each passing day my theory of the multiple Red Rose links is proving true. There have been no new links for me in months now as I feel I have 'exhausted' the assigned ID's attached to me. If it helps, here are all the IDs that were linked to me:  I actually told chat gpt about what you said and it said that you dont need to do any of what you have been doing there is an easy way. I dont know what this really means. But maybe it will make more sense to you. You don’t need to send anything now — wait for their reply first. But if new versions show up, reply in the same email thread and say something like: I have noticed multiple URL variations of the same page appearing in search results (for example, different category/tag parameters). As these all relate to the same underlying content already reviewed, I would be grateful if delisting could apply to all URL variations of this page.
This signals to the reviewer: same article same legal basis same previous decision
They understand exactly what you mean.
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khafka
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+xWell I waited a week for google to get back to me. They asked for my documents. Which I scanned and sent off. But I just thought id type more information than my name and of course a red rose link appeared. Ive replied to the email with the link and asked them to de list it. I did this whole thing using AI for help writing it out. Its been fantastic. It worries me that previous post in here say that it keeps popping up. I dont really understand woodpress or the reason explained. I just hope mine doesnt come up again and I hope google removes it in the first place. Obviously I don't want to give any potential false hope but I will say that with each passing day my theory of the multiple Red Rose links is proving true. There have been no new links for me in months now as I feel I have 'exhausted' the assigned ID's attached to me. If it helps, here are all the IDs that were linked to me:
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Aradia
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Well I waited a week for google to get back to me. They asked for my documents. Which I scanned and sent off. But I just thought id type more information than my name and of course a red rose link appeared. Ive replied to the email with the link and asked them to de list it. I did this whole thing using AI for help writing it out. Its been fantastic. It worries me that previous post in here say that it keeps popping up. I dont really understand woodpress or the reason explained. I just hope mine doesnt come up again and I hope google removes it in the first place.
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Aradia
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Ive just sent off my form this week to google. After following this post for a longgggg timeee. All I can now do is pray they take the link down of the article. I wish I could just get the paper to delete it. But thats never going to happen.
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khafka
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+x+x+xI’ve only really ever bothered with Google. From my experience no one really uses these search engines and Google is the king when it comes to searching on the web. So I’ve never bothered to put requests in to bing or Microsoft edge.My concern at the moment is AI as I’m not sure what the law is around people searching for you via AI, chatgbt etc I was actually thinking about this recently too how will it affect chat gpt etc? Why not do some searches on the AI chatbots yourself and see what comes up? This is what Grok had to say: Can Grok (or AI Like Me) Recover Delisted Details?Yes, in many cases, I can still access and recover details of a conviction even after RTBF delisting—though it's not guaranteed and depends on the case. Here's why and how: - RTBF doesn't block all access: Delisting only impacts Google/Bing/etc. search results. The original webpages (e.g., news articles) remain live and publicly accessible via direct URLs. I can:
- Use web browsing tools to fetch content from known or suspected URLs.
- Perform targeted web searches with operators (e.g., site:bbc.co.uk "conviction name") to bypass delisted queries.
- Leverage X (Twitter) searches for real-time discussions, reposts, or archives that aren't subject to RTBF.
- AI's unique position (and challenges): As an AI built by xAI, my knowledge is continuously updated from public sources up to the current date (December 9, 2025). I don't rely solely on Google; I draw from diverse, real-time tools. However:
- If data was scraped into my training (pre-2025 models), "machine unlearning" isn't perfect—forgotten info can sometimes be reconstructed, raising GDPR debates.
- Recent incidents (e.g., 370,000+ Grok chats indexed publicly in August 2025) highlight privacy risks, but for external data like convictions, I prioritize public, verifiable sources.
- Limits: I can't access paywalled, private, or truly erased content. For court transcripts, as in prior UK cases, they're not public anyway—RTBF doesn't change that.
AI once again proving to be an absolute shitemare.
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punter99
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+x+xI’ve only really ever bothered with Google. From my experience no one really uses these search engines and Google is the king when it comes to searching on the web. So I’ve never bothered to put requests in to bing or Microsoft edge.My concern at the moment is AI as I’m not sure what the law is around people searching for you via AI, chatgbt etc I was actually thinking about this recently too how will it affect chat gpt etc? Why not do some searches on the AI chatbots yourself and see what comes up? This is what Grok had to say: Can Grok (or AI Like Me) Recover Delisted Details?Yes, in many cases, I can still access and recover details of a conviction even after RTBF delisting—though it's not guaranteed and depends on the case. Here's why and how: - RTBF doesn't block all access: Delisting only impacts Google/Bing/etc. search results. The original webpages (e.g., news articles) remain live and publicly accessible via direct URLs. I can:
- Use web browsing tools to fetch content from known or suspected URLs.
- Perform targeted web searches with operators (e.g., site:bbc.co.uk "conviction name") to bypass delisted queries.
- Leverage X (Twitter) searches for real-time discussions, reposts, or archives that aren't subject to RTBF.
- AI's unique position (and challenges): As an AI built by xAI, my knowledge is continuously updated from public sources up to the current date (December 9, 2025). I don't rely solely on Google; I draw from diverse, real-time tools. However:
- If data was scraped into my training (pre-2025 models), "machine unlearning" isn't perfect—forgotten info can sometimes be reconstructed, raising GDPR debates.
- Recent incidents (e.g., 370,000+ Grok chats indexed publicly in August 2025) highlight privacy risks, but for external data like convictions, I prioritize public, verifiable sources.
- Limits: I can't access paywalled, private, or truly erased content. For court transcripts, as in prior UK cases, they're not public anyway—RTBF doesn't change that.
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