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Touring Europe in a Campervan - SOR requirement for first 3 nights.


Touring Europe in a Campervan - SOR requirement for first 3 nights.

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Hi all and I am sorry for raising this question again but I do it again in the hope that some may of done this trip since my last asking.

Basically I do a lot of wild camping in my van so rarely stay on a "camping site".

In Dec I am hoping to drive through France to Portugal, then Spain etc for a couple of months so in other words getting away from the cold.

My initial concern is stating where I will be staying for the first 3 nights - though in theory 1 will be on the ferry but I do not think I will get away with that. Sad

I'm on a budget so I will not be staying in a B&B etc.

Has anyone else drove across and if so what info did you pass to your OM about the first 3 nights.

Thank you




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JASB - 3 Sep 24 1:44 PM
Hi all and I am sorry for raising this question again but I do it again in the hope that some may of done this trip since my last asking.

Basically I do a lot of wild camping in my van so rarely stay on a "camping site".

In Dec I am hoping to drive through France to Portugal, then Spain etc for a couple of months so in other words getting away from the cold.

My initial concern is stating where I will be staying for the first 3 nights - though in theory 1 will be on the ferry but I do not think I will get away with that. Sad

I'm on a budget so I will not be staying in a B&B etc.

Has anyone else drove across and if so what info did you pass to your OM about the first 3 nights.

Thank you



Wouldn't it be easier just to ask your OM what info they require from you?  Every OM is different, so other people's experiences won't necessarily tell you what your OM will accept.
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punter99 - 4 Sep 24 10:31 AM
JASB - 3 Sep 24 1:44 PM
Hi all and I am sorry for raising this question again but I do it again in the hope that some may of done this trip since my last asking.

Basically I do a lot of wild camping in my van so rarely stay on a "camping site".

In Dec I am hoping to drive through France to Portugal, then Spain etc for a couple of months so in other words getting away from the cold.

My initial concern is stating where I will be staying for the first 3 nights - though in theory 1 will be on the ferry but I do not think I will get away with that. Sad

I'm on a budget so I will not be staying in a B&B etc.

Has anyone else drove across and if so what info did you pass to your OM about the first 3 nights.

Thank you



Wouldn't it be easier just to ask your OM what info they require from you?  Every OM is different, so other people's experiences won't necessarily tell you what your OM will accept.

Hi

I have done that with 2 different OM's and never get a reply as they say they do not know.

Also they want to work on "actual dates / occassions" but I do not wish to book/pay for something that becomes unmanagable due to their demands and so lose money again!
Thanks anyway Smile

But I'm also looking at others experience.

Society suggests I must let go of all my expectations but I disagree, as whilst I have a voice, I have hope.

Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope is for tomorrow else what is left if you remove a mans hope.
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JASB - 5 Sep 24 9:36 AM
punter99 - 4 Sep 24 10:31 AM
JASB - 3 Sep 24 1:44 PM
Hi all and I am sorry for raising this question again but I do it again in the hope that some may of done this trip since my last asking.

Basically I do a lot of wild camping in my van so rarely stay on a "camping site".

In Dec I am hoping to drive through France to Portugal, then Spain etc for a couple of months so in other words getting away from the cold.

My initial concern is stating where I will be staying for the first 3 nights - though in theory 1 will be on the ferry but I do not think I will get away with that. Sad

I'm on a budget so I will not be staying in a B&B etc.

Has anyone else drove across and if so what info did you pass to your OM about the first 3 nights.

Thank you



Wouldn't it be easier just to ask your OM what info they require from you?  Every OM is different, so other people's experiences won't necessarily tell you what your OM will accept.

Hi

I have done that with 2 different OM's and never get a reply as they say they do not know.

Also they want to work on "actual dates / occassions" but I do not wish to book/pay for something that becomes unmanagable due to their demands and so lose money again!
Thanks anyway Smile

But I'm also looking at others experience.

Unlock's information and advice about this could be helpful. If they insist on knowing where you will be staying on your first night, just book a cheap chain hotel room (such as Formule 1 in France) so they can tick all their boxes.

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AB2014 - 5 Sep 24 9:47 AM
JASB - 5 Sep 24 9:36 AM
punter99 - 4 Sep 24 10:31 AM
JASB - 3 Sep 24 1:44 PM
Hi all and I am sorry for raising this question again but I do it again in the hope that some may of done this trip since my last asking.

Basically I do a lot of wild camping in my van so rarely stay on a "camping site".

In Dec I am hoping to drive through France to Portugal, then Spain etc for a couple of months so in other words getting away from the cold.

My initial concern is stating where I will be staying for the first 3 nights - though in theory 1 will be on the ferry but I do not think I will get away with that. Sad

I'm on a budget so I will not be staying in a B&B etc.

Has anyone else drove across and if so what info did you pass to your OM about the first 3 nights.

Thank you



Wouldn't it be easier just to ask your OM what info they require from you?  Every OM is different, so other people's experiences won't necessarily tell you what your OM will accept.

Hi

I have done that with 2 different OM's and never get a reply as they say they do not know.

Also they want to work on "actual dates / occassions" but I do not wish to book/pay for something that becomes unmanagable due to their demands and so lose money again!
Thanks anyway Smile

But I'm also looking at others experience.

Unlock's information and advice about this could be helpful. If they insist on knowing where you will be staying on your first night, just book a cheap chain hotel room (such as Formule 1 in France) so they can tick all their boxes.

Hi Thanks for the France link.
The last I saw it was the first 3 nights but the march 2023 Pt 2 guideance has changed.
Seems a bit has changed
the date of departure from the United Kingdom
• the destination country
• the point of arrival in that country
• the points of arrival in any other countries being visited
• dates of intended stay in any country being visited
• the identify of carrier(s) the offender intends to use to leave and return to the United Kingdom, or to travel to any other point(s) of arrival outside the United Kingdom
• details of the offender’s accommodation arrangements in any country being visited
• date of return to the United Kingdom
• point of arrival on return to the United Kingdom.


Society suggests I must let go of all my expectations but I disagree, as whilst I have a voice, I have hope.

Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope is for tomorrow else what is left if you remove a mans hope.
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JASB - 5 Sep 24 10:19 AM
AB2014 - 5 Sep 24 9:47 AM
JASB - 5 Sep 24 9:36 AM
punter99 - 4 Sep 24 10:31 AM
JASB - 3 Sep 24 1:44 PM
Hi all and I am sorry for raising this question again but I do it again in the hope that some may of done this trip since my last asking.

Basically I do a lot of wild camping in my van so rarely stay on a "camping site".

In Dec I am hoping to drive through France to Portugal, then Spain etc for a couple of months so in other words getting away from the cold.

My initial concern is stating where I will be staying for the first 3 nights - though in theory 1 will be on the ferry but I do not think I will get away with that. Sad

I'm on a budget so I will not be staying in a B&B etc.

Has anyone else drove across and if so what info did you pass to your OM about the first 3 nights.

Thank you



Wouldn't it be easier just to ask your OM what info they require from you?  Every OM is different, so other people's experiences won't necessarily tell you what your OM will accept.

Hi

I have done that with 2 different OM's and never get a reply as they say they do not know.

Also they want to work on "actual dates / occassions" but I do not wish to book/pay for something that becomes unmanagable due to their demands and so lose money again!
Thanks anyway Smile

But I'm also looking at others experience.

Unlock's information and advice about this could be helpful. If they insist on knowing where you will be staying on your first night, just book a cheap chain hotel room (such as Formule 1 in France) so they can tick all their boxes.

Hi Thanks for the France link.
The last I saw it was the first 3 nights but the march 2023 Pt 2 guideance has changed.
Seems a bit has changed
the date of departure from the United Kingdom
• the destination country
• the point of arrival in that country
• the points of arrival in any other countries being visited
• dates of intended stay in any country being visited
• the identify of carrier(s) the offender intends to use to leave and return to the United Kingdom, or to travel to any other point(s) of arrival outside the United Kingdom
• details of the offender’s accommodation arrangements in any country being visited
• date of return to the United Kingdom
• point of arrival on return to the United Kingdom.

The guidance does go on to say that you must notify the information "where it is held". So, if you don't know the exact details, you can't notify them: you can only notify what you know and what you intend. By all means give them addresses where you hope to stay, subject to real life and traffic getting in the way.

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If you are to punish a man retributively you must injure him. If you are to reform him you must improve him. And men are not improved by injuries. (George Bernard Shaw)

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AB2014 - 5 Sep 24 10:41 AM
JASB - 5 Sep 24 10:19 AM
AB2014 - 5 Sep 24 9:47 AM
JASB - 5 Sep 24 9:36 AM
punter99 - 4 Sep 24 10:31 AM
JASB - 3 Sep 24 1:44 PM
Hi all and I am sorry for raising this question again but I do it again in the hope that some may of done this trip since my last asking.

Basically I do a lot of wild camping in my van so rarely stay on a "camping site".

In Dec I am hoping to drive through France to Portugal, then Spain etc for a couple of months so in other words getting away from the cold.

My initial concern is stating where I will be staying for the first 3 nights - though in theory 1 will be on the ferry but I do not think I will get away with that. Sad

I'm on a budget so I will not be staying in a B&B etc.

Has anyone else drove across and if so what info did you pass to your OM about the first 3 nights.

Thank you



Wouldn't it be easier just to ask your OM what info they require from you?  Every OM is different, so other people's experiences won't necessarily tell you what your OM will accept.

Hi

I have done that with 2 different OM's and never get a reply as they say they do not know.

Also they want to work on "actual dates / occassions" but I do not wish to book/pay for something that becomes unmanagable due to their demands and so lose money again!
Thanks anyway Smile

But I'm also looking at others experience.

Unlock's information and advice about this could be helpful. If they insist on knowing where you will be staying on your first night, just book a cheap chain hotel room (such as Formule 1 in France) so they can tick all their boxes.

Hi Thanks for the France link.
The last I saw it was the first 3 nights but the march 2023 Pt 2 guideance has changed.
Seems a bit has changed
the date of departure from the United Kingdom
• the destination country
• the point of arrival in that country
• the points of arrival in any other countries being visited
• dates of intended stay in any country being visited
• the identify of carrier(s) the offender intends to use to leave and return to the United Kingdom, or to travel to any other point(s) of arrival outside the United Kingdom
• details of the offender’s accommodation arrangements in any country being visited
• date of return to the United Kingdom
• point of arrival on return to the United Kingdom.

The guidance does go on to say that you must notify the information "where it is held". So, if you don't know the exact details, you can't notify them: you can only notify what you know and what you intend. By all means give them addresses where you hope to stay, subject to real life and traffic getting in the way.

Hi
I suppose; given that I am hoping to ask for my SOR to be discharged in the next few years I am wanting to be 200% accurate in what I provide initially rather than them rasing a question and so think I am hiding info.

But thank again for prompting me to look at the 2requirements again as now its only the 1st night that is a bit easier.

Society suggests I must let go of all my expectations but I disagree, as whilst I have a voice, I have hope.

Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope is for tomorrow else what is left if you remove a mans hope.
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This forum supports these words, thank you Unlock and your contributors.

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