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Name and shame list of employers who discriminate against people with unspent convictions


Name and shame list of employers who discriminate against people with...

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I don't get the point of this?

Basically EVERY company will discriminate. Every single one of them.

Better to have a list of those who won't.
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Hi Mirrorman - so you're unable to name a company that offered you a job and retracted the offer after you disclosed?

I never disclose, ever. It's idiotic to do so.

In my eyes asking for a CBR will result in no job offer so any job who asks for one are discriminating from the start.
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This is why they are all crying over the new ROA periods.

They like being nosy and now they can't. They are being forced to treat everybody equally

and they do not like it!
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Securicor,

The prison service.
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www.princes-trust.org.uk/pdf/MS%201%20Guidelines%20apr08.pdf

Plz take a look at this about M&S. The one thing that caught my eye was.

The criteria for selection guidelines will tell you who is and is not eligible. The main issues
are around unspent convictions. If a young person has an unspent conviction they will
need to be willing to declare this. The information M&S require is date of offence, age of
person at the time, what the offence was (as much details as possible) and outcome. i.e.
caution, fine, YOI.
This information will be passed to M&S Head office but not to the store where the
placement is due to take place. M&S Head office will decide whether the placement can
go ahead or not you will be notified of their response.
N.B. M&S will not accept currently serving prisoners onto Marks & Start placements


We all accept our crimes but should we be punished more for it?



We all accept our crimes but should we be punished more for it?
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Mirrorman

You are right that every employer will discriminate but there are some that won't and trust me there are only a few. So what is the point in name and shame them here. I think the hole problem is with the employers and it's mostly around disclosing , discriminating and CRB checks even though the R.O.A as changed and made it better for people with convictions I still think the underlying problem is with the employer. Let me give you an example:-

I have an unspent conviction I declare this at the application stage (discriminated at that stage)

I have an unspent conviction I declare this at the interview stage but failed to declare it at the application stage (discriminated at that stage)

Now let me move on to disclosing

When is the good time to disclose to an employer? Well there ain't is there. A lot of people on here will tell you it is best to disclose right from the start. People without convictions think totally different to the one's that do. What i am trying to say is you got to change the mind set of employers. Employers have to many rules and laws that back them up and they are exploiting this with you and me. This is why I think that the equality act 2010 should be reviewed again.

Now what if I had a spent record and you are legally right not to disclose but later down the road of your employment your employer wanted to do a CRB check and finds out about your conviction. Two things can happon

You tell your employer before he get the CRB done or wait till the CRB comes back and await the outcome. He or she can make two decisions get rid of you or keep you.

It is simple really employers have the law on there side and this needs to be sorted out even though I think the ROA changes are good there are still a lot of things need sorting out with the employer side of things.

What do you think CS


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We all accept our crimes but should we be punished more for it?



We all accept our crimes but should we be punished more for it?
 
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