AB2014
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+x+xI thought there used to be a way of chatting with you in a DM. I was going to ask you for the link or address where you actually asked for help from google. I'm not going to need it for another 2 years though If there is a chat feature it's certainly not something I've ever come across! Regardless, here you go. Google Removal InformationThis is just the overview page to tell you what sort of things they remove and all that. Google Removal FormThis is the actual removal form if you just want to skip all that. You can also find advice and information on Unlock's website here, with a link to the application form and a template you can use to get you started on the application. I asked Debbie, who runs the forum, about this a few years ago and she confirmed there is no chat or DM feature.
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If you are to punish a man retributively you must injure him. If you are to reform him you must improve him. And men are not improved by injuries. (George Bernard Shaw)
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Jamie7718
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+x+xI thought there used to be a way of chatting with you in a DM. I was going to ask you for the link or address where you actually asked for help from google. I'm not going to need it for another 2 years though If there is a chat feature it's certainly not something I've ever come across! Regardless, here you go. Google Removal InformationThis is just the overview page to tell you what sort of things they remove and all that. Google Removal FormThis is the actual removal form if you just want to skip all that. thanks for that. Congrats on getting removed. I am surprised it seemed so easy.I think a lot of people just dont wait long enough for it to be spent.
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khafka
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+x+x+xI thought there used to be a way of chatting with you in a DM. I was going to ask you for the link or address where you actually asked for help from google. I'm not going to need it for another 2 years though If there is a chat feature it's certainly not something I've ever come across! Regardless, here you go. Google Removal InformationThis is just the overview page to tell you what sort of things they remove and all that. Google Removal FormThis is the actual removal form if you just want to skip all that. thanks for that. Congrats on getting removed. I am surprised it seemed so easy.I think a lot of people just dont wait long enough for it to be spent. No problem! Feel free to ask away any questions, more than happy to help where I can. I tried to do it a couple of times before and got absolutely nowhere. This time I came armed with stuff that would make it hard for them to deny it
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khafka
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Well in keeping with the journey theme:
Finally heard back from Bing this time and they've told me to bugger off. They'll keep listing the links for "Public interest".
There is no option to appeal it, I'd just have to submit a new request. Given Google have conceded and removed the links I'm wondering if I go to ICO with that knowledge if they could maybe push Bing a bit on it?
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Steadfast
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+xWell in keeping with the journey theme: Finally heard back from Bing this time and they've told me to bugger off. They'll keep listing the links for "Public interest". There is no option to appeal it, I'd just have to submit a new request. Given Google have conceded and removed the links I'm wondering if I go to ICO with that knowledge if they could maybe push Bing a bit on it? Don't give up khafa! Considering the convictions are now spent and Google have accepted this as good enough reason to remove the results - a stab at the ICO could be a good route. I suppose the 'good thing' here, however, is that nobody actually uses bing! haha Best of luck.
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AB2014
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+x+xWell in keeping with the journey theme: Finally heard back from Bing this time and they've told me to bugger off. They'll keep listing the links for "Public interest". There is no option to appeal it, I'd just have to submit a new request. Given Google have conceded and removed the links I'm wondering if I go to ICO with that knowledge if they could maybe push Bing a bit on it? Don't give up khafa! Considering the convictions are now spent and Google have accepted this as good enough reason to remove the results - a stab at the ICO could be a good route. I suppose the 'good thing' here, however, is that nobody actually uses bing! haha Best of luck. Yes, the ICO has to be worth a try, especially as you effectively have Google on your side. I've mentioned the difference in laws before, but if your conviction would also be spent in England & Wales, that means the spent conviction argument applies across the UK and not just in Scotland. Who uses Bing? Apparently, Bing has just under 4% of the market share in the UK, so fewer than 1 in 25. I only use it because I use Edge rather than Chrome.
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If you are to punish a man retributively you must injure him. If you are to reform him you must improve him. And men are not improved by injuries. (George Bernard Shaw)
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khafka
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+xYes, the ICO has to be worth a try, especially as you effectively have Google on your side. I've mentioned the difference in laws before, but if your conviction would also be spent in England & Wales, that means the spent conviction argument applies across the UK and not just in Scotland. Who uses Bing? Apparently, Bing has just under 4% of the market share in the UK, so fewer than 1 in 25. I only use it because I use Edge rather than Chrome. Oh absolutely, I know nobody uses Bing but I'm trying to cover all my bases here, at least with the more 'popular' search engines. Bing doesn't actually seem to have too many links about me in the search results, only 4 compared to about a dozen with Google.
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Lineofduty
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One angle to try with regards “public interest” is to turn the phrase around. it’s not about the public’s interest - of course they’d always be interested in such info for gossip / stigma - it’s actually about managing risk in the public interest. You’ve done your time, there’s no SOR or SHPO, therefore in law and also public risk assessment you are no longer deemed to be a risk to the public which the police (PPU) need to manage. Try that.
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Mr W
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We may have a very interesting 21st Century problem. Could 'ChatGPT Effect' become the new 'Google Effect'? ChatGPT - https://chat.openai.com/chatKhafka, you might be a good test subject. (Or anyone who is still Google-able now to see if it is the case.) I've just ChatGPT'd my name and it's come up with a response and linking to newspapers. Now that you've been successful in De-Googling, if you ChatGPT yourself, so to speak, do you still come up? Everyone else, do you come up in results? If you type: 'Who is NAME from LOCATION' You can allow it web access (button at the bottom). This could then also be the case with each of the ChatGPT-type models, especially if people move away from Googling, such as Elon Musk's Grok and Google's Gemini.
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khafka
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+xWe may have a very interesting 21st Century problem. Could 'ChatGPT Effect' become the new 'Google Effect'? ChatGPT - https://chat.openai.com/chatKhafka, you might be a good test subject. (Or anyone who is still Google-able now to see if it is the case.) I've just ChatGPT'd my name and it's come up with a response and linking to newspapers. Now that you've been successful in De-Googling, if you ChatGPT yourself, so to speak, do you still come up? Everyone else, do you come up in results? If you type: 'Who is NAME from LOCATION' You can allow it web access (button at the bottom). This could then also be the case with each of the ChatGPT-type models, especially if people move away from Googling, such as Elon Musk's Grok and Google's Gemini. I gave it a wee go although I couldn't seem to see the web access button at the bottom so this might not be accurate. I tried two variations and got nothing back for either. When I tried to be a bit more specific and initially just added 'sex' at the end it freaked out and said they're not allowed to do stuff like that - So changed it to 'sex offender' and it doesn't really give much.
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