Hi, sorry to reply to this again.
I have finally applied to ACRO to see what comes back (was much easier than I thought it was going to be).

In the crime offender record, it shows:
Offence recorded desc: Sec 47 assault occasioning actual bodily harm

Then at the bottom in the Court result record it shows: 
Offence: Common assault, Sec 39
Result: Community order (180 hours unpaid work)

I still have not applied for any job in the whole time since this happened, which is now a good amount of time over 11 years, so is spent. I have still always worried about it appearing on checks.
I have always worked for the health service doing an admin role, and it's never been mentioned to them. Funnily enough, the arresting officer took me aside and told me to say I don't have a job when asked.

I have always wanted to go for other admin roles, but the worry of this harming my current role has always stopped me. If I did go for a job, still within the health service, and anything got brought up on the DBS check, even if i didn't get the job I am going for, could that then get me sacked from my current role for never letting them know?

I know these jobs should really just be a basic check as there's no patient contact, but I only ever see them being advertised as standard or enhanced, I don't think I have ever seen any of the admin roles being advertised with a basic check.

I know my offence would be filtered and comes under that, I guess the thing I am so hesitant about is that the police can still disclose information if they feel it's relevant, can't they? And I keep thinking being a health service role, even admin, they may feel that should be disclosed? Would that be the case, or is there just no way of knowing without applying for a job?

Because the ACRO document shows the police recorded it initially as sec 47 which is worse, could they only see that and not the outcome was sec 39, so they may feel they are responding to what they think was a sec 47 offence?

Or am i really just over thinking everything? I just don't want to lose my job, in the process of trying to get a new one.

Regards
Dave

It will stay on your PNC record, but unless there are any safeguarding issues around the conviction and the victim, the police shouldn't be disclosing it. The check should be clear, but it's human nature to be unsure of the unknown until it finally becomes known. If anything does show up, I suggest contacting Unlock for advice.

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If you are to punish a man retributively you must injure him. If you are to reform him you must improve him. And men are not improved by injuries. (George Bernard Shaw)

Thank you, that sounds brilliant and such a relief.
Would anything on PNC also be filtered, or could anything there show up?
Or after this amount of time and given my scenario, do I need to just stop worrying and be assured nothing is going to show now, even on a standard or enhanced check?

I'm guessing that Yankee was just covering all the possibilities. In your case, the conviction will be filtered eleven years after the date of conviction. You don't have to apply for filtering; it just happens from the next check after that date.

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If you are to punish a man retributively you must injure him. If you are to reform him you must improve him. And men are not improved by injuries. (George Bernard Shaw)

Hi, thanks for the reply.
I don't have multiple convictions, so not sure how your reply relates?
Does that mean mine would be filtered?

The multiple convictions rule was abolished in November 2020 after the Supreme Court case about filtering.

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If you are to punish a man retributively you must injure him. If you are to reform him you must improve him. And men are not improved by injuries. (George Bernard Shaw)

Hi, really sorry to be replying to this again after 3 years.
To answer the last reply, no employer didn't ever know I had this conviction for the whole 11 years.
This is working in the NHS all that time and still am.
It's now been about 13/14 years since the conviction.
I don't have the paperwork I got at the time, so a bit sketchy on detail now. I am pretty certain is section 39 common assault.
I got 180 hours community service. I don't recall if I got a suspended sentence or not, although would this not be the case if I got a community order?
Would you generally not get both and only one?
The other thing I am a bit worried about is I read that with an enhanced check, can show information that's on the PNC.
I used the calculator, which seems to show that my offence should now be filtered. Has anything changed where I can find out? Without applying for a job, that is.
In the whole time, I have not applied for any other job, literally out of just being scared of losing my current job and then not being able to get another one if that happened.

If I applied for another job in the NHS for example, because it's the NHS, is it likely that information from the PNC would show on an enhanced check? How am I going to know if it will or won't?

I just feel I cannot apply for anything else until I know where I stand, without applying for a job to find out. Because applying for a job might be what could then end up effecting me.

If anyone can help, that would be great.

I take it you have not declared to your current employer that you have a criminal record for the past 11 years.

Is there no way of paying for a DBS check yourself as companies seem to be able to do it at will .

It's normal to worry about the unknown, as that's what has kept the human race alive for thousands of years. Even so, the rules for filtering are supported by law. If you have only ever been convicted on one charge of common assault and not given a prison sentence or suspended sentence, then the conviction will be filtered after 11 years. If your conviction shouldn't be shown but still is, you should raise it with the DBS so that they can get it sorted out for you. They have a legal duty to do that under the Data Protection Act 2018.

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If you are to punish a man retributively you must injure him. If you are to reform him you must improve him. And men are not improved by injuries. (George Bernard Shaw)

Thats a shame because all that time i have been really worried about applying for a job, but i will probably stay worried because i have no real way of checking

Thank you for your help though