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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xI don't want to sound unsympathetic, but neither the police, or your solicitor, will be particularly concerned about how the investigation is affecting your mental health. That is because there is nothing unusual, about having to wait years, for the justice system to resolve a case. They see it every day, with every person that is accused. The CPS and the court system are overloaded with cases, waiting to come to court. That's just the way it is. There is nothing you can do, to speed things up. It isn't the fault of your solicitor, or the police, that things take so long. It is down to chronic underfunding of the system, over many years. You could try complaining to your MP, although I doubt that would speed things up either. If you are on police bail, then you are subject to some restrictions on your life, but if you were RUI (released under investigation), then you are a free man, so try to live a normal life. That of course, is easier said than done. The police advised me to carry on as usual, not to quit my job or anything. I had a holiday booked and I asked the police if I could still go abroad. They said no problem. I could have got on a plane and disappeared from the UK, never to return. If you need mental health support, then speak to a GP. I was on anti depressants and going to therapy, all the time I was RUI, which helped. Plus you have family members to support you. I can understand why you might not want to go out, if other people know that you have been arrested, although it is unlikely that this information will have been passed to the media. That only happens after you have been to court. Most important, remember that you are innocent until proven guilty, so you have nothing to be ashamed off. When it comes to wrongful or unlawful arrest, and suing the police for abusing their powers, bear in mind that the police are allowed to arrest you, if they have reasonable suspicion. If they later decide not to charge you, then it was still a lawful arrest, provided they can demonstrate they had enough evidence for a reasonable suspicion. This means they think they already have some kind of evidence, for them pick on you. They need a much greater amount of evidence to charge you though, and often when they seize people's devices, a lot of the time they are on a fishing expedition. They are hoping it will turn up more evidence. You don't say if you have been interviewed or not, but the questions that the police ask, will give you an indication of what evidence they have for reasonable suspicion. They will look for things like a possible connection to the victim. Do you know the victim, or have you previously been in contact with them, for example. When it comes to your internet browsing history, that is almost seen as a window into someone's mind, so the police will be searching for anything linking you to the victim, such as visiting their social media pages. I understand what you mean, currently on RUI, no info as to whether or not a charge is to be made hasn't been provided to me. I've been RUI since July of this year, I don't know how long it will take for them to make a decision or how long it has taken them to examine my devices such as phone and laptop, or do you think they've already examined them by now? They've had my devices since April. I haven't been interviewed again. Do you think they'll look through everything since beginning of time on phone and laptop or just bits and pieces? The officer who arrested me informed me a few months after that my devices were in the process of being looked at, then a week or so later called to inform me ALL devices tested positive. I told him that was impossible and demanded he detailed what was found and where, the response I got was "I can not tell you" and he hung up on me. I informed my solicitor of this protesting the claims ALL devices tested positive yet he done nothing about it. Police in all regions work differently to others, so there is no guarantee they will inspect your devices in the next few months or over all of next year. But when they do finally get round to it they will inform you if they found anything or not. Seeing as you are not under any form of restrictions, try and live your life as normal as possible until they contact you. Document everything you are told / record if possible (even your solicitor) So really, the moment they find something they told you immediately so it seems. In the circumstances of them investigating things of sexual nature involving children then I'd assume it would be top priority to them? Police will prioritize what gives them the best results, whether they inform you or not is really all down to the officers mood and personality. I would think if anything was found they would inform you right away, but would happily delay informing you and prolonging the return of your devices when they find nothing. I do hope though this will get resolved for you quickly and the return of your devices, being dragged through the broken justice system we have is not a nice experience. I've just recieved good news 3hrs ago I just got an email from my solicitor, she told me police decided not to charge me. NFA. This is great news, Any word on if you will be getting your devices back soon or still unclear? Solicitor said that officer in charge of case would send a letter and phone me to arrange a date for return of my property. Hi Mine was not an internet offence yet they still took everything and it was a year later I got it back. However during that time they did let me have a backup of my data from my laptop. My disappointment was they did all this but would not go to my mobile phone service provider to get copies of "blackmail" text messages sent to me; even though I had given them the date, times, name and number of the sender! Understanding the processes and / or logic of an investigation is hindered due to an agenda of imposing psychological pressure on someone suspected / accused of an offence. Well so far haven't recieved any letter yet, no phone call, nothing. I did say previously, that it take a few months at least and that you would have to chase them up a few times. Don't forget to ask them to remove your DNA and fingerprints from their computer system as well. I just sent an email to my solicitor to chase them up on it Got no reply, been ignored by both parties, may have to try calling them via phone and if that doesn't work then I'm going to sue them both. Hi Bit of advice if I may. I have written previously that the best info I read when "entering the Justice System", is to forget about time as you appreciate it. Your solicitors have probably downgraded their attention with you as they see no or limited further financial gains from you. Plus they do like to keep friendly with the Police so why should they cause issues. The system, why would they rush? My passport was taken by the Met Police but was ordered by a Judge to return it. They ignored this order until I wrote to the Judge repeatedly; bypassing my solicitor, and he ordered them again or answer back to him. The reply from the Met Police was that they had lost it; even though they declared they had it a couple of weeks previously. It's called "deniable revenge". I would consider bypassing your solicitor; especially if you have no further use of him, and write to the Police Commissioner explaining clearly and simply attaching copies of you solicitors letters. Good luck I've attempted to contact both parties involved, the solicitor and the OIC. Officer in charge gave excuses for not sending a NFA letter and said it was because of data protection, I think it's just laziness on their part. When I questioned them about why they didn't call and leave a message on the landline they said it was because of data protection and didn't want my family who live with me to listen in to my conversation which I think is ironic and laughable since they're the same officer that listened in with their friend in conversations with me, my Dad and my solicitor when they weren't supposed to at all. Leaving a message on an answering machine could potentially be a breach, because they do not know who might pick it up. As for letters, it is the OICs choice whether to send one or not. https://beta.northumbria.police.uk/about-us/publications-and-documents/accessing-information/disclosure-log/policy-and-procedure/nfa-procedure-following-arrest-127620/ Yes, don't even bother with phone calls anymore. They probably won't get through to the person you want to contact anyway. If you've contacted the OIC in writing and got nowhere, then after 28 days contact the Chief Constable/Commissioner in writing and ask them to get your property back for you. Put everything in writing so they can't deny it.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xI don't want to sound unsympathetic, but neither the police, or your solicitor, will be particularly concerned about how the investigation is affecting your mental health. That is because there is nothing unusual, about having to wait years, for the justice system to resolve a case. They see it every day, with every person that is accused. The CPS and the court system are overloaded with cases, waiting to come to court. That's just the way it is. There is nothing you can do, to speed things up. It isn't the fault of your solicitor, or the police, that things take so long. It is down to chronic underfunding of the system, over many years. You could try complaining to your MP, although I doubt that would speed things up either. If you are on police bail, then you are subject to some restrictions on your life, but if you were RUI (released under investigation), then you are a free man, so try to live a normal life. That of course, is easier said than done. The police advised me to carry on as usual, not to quit my job or anything. I had a holiday booked and I asked the police if I could still go abroad. They said no problem. I could have got on a plane and disappeared from the UK, never to return. If you need mental health support, then speak to a GP. I was on anti depressants and going to therapy, all the time I was RUI, which helped. Plus you have family members to support you. I can understand why you might not want to go out, if other people know that you have been arrested, although it is unlikely that this information will have been passed to the media. That only happens after you have been to court. Most important, remember that you are innocent until proven guilty, so you have nothing to be ashamed off. When it comes to wrongful or unlawful arrest, and suing the police for abusing their powers, bear in mind that the police are allowed to arrest you, if they have reasonable suspicion. If they later decide not to charge you, then it was still a lawful arrest, provided they can demonstrate they had enough evidence for a reasonable suspicion. This means they think they already have some kind of evidence, for them pick on you. They need a much greater amount of evidence to charge you though, and often when they seize people's devices, a lot of the time they are on a fishing expedition. They are hoping it will turn up more evidence. You don't say if you have been interviewed or not, but the questions that the police ask, will give you an indication of what evidence they have for reasonable suspicion. They will look for things like a possible connection to the victim. Do you know the victim, or have you previously been in contact with them, for example. When it comes to your internet browsing history, that is almost seen as a window into someone's mind, so the police will be searching for anything linking you to the victim, such as visiting their social media pages. I understand what you mean, currently on RUI, no info as to whether or not a charge is to be made hasn't been provided to me. I've been RUI since July of this year, I don't know how long it will take for them to make a decision or how long it has taken them to examine my devices such as phone and laptop, or do you think they've already examined them by now? They've had my devices since April. I haven't been interviewed again. Do you think they'll look through everything since beginning of time on phone and laptop or just bits and pieces? The officer who arrested me informed me a few months after that my devices were in the process of being looked at, then a week or so later called to inform me ALL devices tested positive. I told him that was impossible and demanded he detailed what was found and where, the response I got was "I can not tell you" and he hung up on me. I informed my solicitor of this protesting the claims ALL devices tested positive yet he done nothing about it. Police in all regions work differently to others, so there is no guarantee they will inspect your devices in the next few months or over all of next year. But when they do finally get round to it they will inform you if they found anything or not. Seeing as you are not under any form of restrictions, try and live your life as normal as possible until they contact you. Document everything you are told / record if possible (even your solicitor) So really, the moment they find something they told you immediately so it seems. In the circumstances of them investigating things of sexual nature involving children then I'd assume it would be top priority to them? Police will prioritize what gives them the best results, whether they inform you or not is really all down to the officers mood and personality. I would think if anything was found they would inform you right away, but would happily delay informing you and prolonging the return of your devices when they find nothing. I do hope though this will get resolved for you quickly and the return of your devices, being dragged through the broken justice system we have is not a nice experience. I've just recieved good news 3hrs ago I just got an email from my solicitor, she told me police decided not to charge me. NFA. This is great news, Any word on if you will be getting your devices back soon or still unclear? Solicitor said that officer in charge of case would send a letter and phone me to arrange a date for return of my property. Hi Mine was not an internet offence yet they still took everything and it was a year later I got it back. However during that time they did let me have a backup of my data from my laptop. My disappointment was they did all this but would not go to my mobile phone service provider to get copies of "blackmail" text messages sent to me; even though I had given them the date, times, name and number of the sender! Understanding the processes and / or logic of an investigation is hindered due to an agenda of imposing psychological pressure on someone suspected / accused of an offence. Well so far haven't recieved any letter yet, no phone call, nothing. I did say previously, that it take a few months at least and that you would have to chase them up a few times. Don't forget to ask them to remove your DNA and fingerprints from their computer system as well. I just sent an email to my solicitor to chase them up on it Got no reply, been ignored by both parties, may have to try calling them via phone and if that doesn't work then I'm going to sue them both. Hi Bit of advice if I may. I have written previously that the best info I read when "entering the Justice System", is to forget about time as you appreciate it. Your solicitors have probably downgraded their attention with you as they see no or limited further financial gains from you. Plus they do like to keep friendly with the Police so why should they cause issues. The system, why would they rush? My passport was taken by the Met Police but was ordered by a Judge to return it. They ignored this order until I wrote to the Judge repeatedly; bypassing my solicitor, and he ordered them again or answer back to him. The reply from the Met Police was that they had lost it; even though they declared they had it a couple of weeks previously. It's called "deniable revenge". I would consider bypassing your solicitor; especially if you have no further use of him, and write to the Police Commissioner explaining clearly and simply attaching copies of you solicitors letters. Good luck I've attempted to contact both parties involved, the solicitor and the OIC. Officer in charge gave excuses for not sending a NFA letter and said it was because of data protection, I think it's just laziness on their part. When I questioned them about why they didn't call and leave a message on the landline they said it was because of data protection and didn't want my family who live with me to listen in to my conversation which I think is ironic and laughable since they're the same officer that listened in with their friend in conversations with me, my Dad and my solicitor when they weren't supposed to at all. Leaving a message on an answering machine could potentially be a breach, because they do not know who might pick it up. As for letters, it is the OICs choice whether to send one or not. https://beta.northumbria.police.uk/about-us/publications-and-documents/accessing-information/disclosure-log/policy-and-procedure/nfa-procedure-following-arrest-127620/ Well that's retarded because my family are aware and are involved since they are witnesses to me being at home
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xI don't want to sound unsympathetic, but neither the police, or your solicitor, will be particularly concerned about how the investigation is affecting your mental health. That is because there is nothing unusual, about having to wait years, for the justice system to resolve a case. They see it every day, with every person that is accused. The CPS and the court system are overloaded with cases, waiting to come to court. That's just the way it is. There is nothing you can do, to speed things up. It isn't the fault of your solicitor, or the police, that things take so long. It is down to chronic underfunding of the system, over many years. You could try complaining to your MP, although I doubt that would speed things up either. If you are on police bail, then you are subject to some restrictions on your life, but if you were RUI (released under investigation), then you are a free man, so try to live a normal life. That of course, is easier said than done. The police advised me to carry on as usual, not to quit my job or anything. I had a holiday booked and I asked the police if I could still go abroad. They said no problem. I could have got on a plane and disappeared from the UK, never to return. If you need mental health support, then speak to a GP. I was on anti depressants and going to therapy, all the time I was RUI, which helped. Plus you have family members to support you. I can understand why you might not want to go out, if other people know that you have been arrested, although it is unlikely that this information will have been passed to the media. That only happens after you have been to court. Most important, remember that you are innocent until proven guilty, so you have nothing to be ashamed off. When it comes to wrongful or unlawful arrest, and suing the police for abusing their powers, bear in mind that the police are allowed to arrest you, if they have reasonable suspicion. If they later decide not to charge you, then it was still a lawful arrest, provided they can demonstrate they had enough evidence for a reasonable suspicion. This means they think they already have some kind of evidence, for them pick on you. They need a much greater amount of evidence to charge you though, and often when they seize people's devices, a lot of the time they are on a fishing expedition. They are hoping it will turn up more evidence. You don't say if you have been interviewed or not, but the questions that the police ask, will give you an indication of what evidence they have for reasonable suspicion. They will look for things like a possible connection to the victim. Do you know the victim, or have you previously been in contact with them, for example. When it comes to your internet browsing history, that is almost seen as a window into someone's mind, so the police will be searching for anything linking you to the victim, such as visiting their social media pages. I understand what you mean, currently on RUI, no info as to whether or not a charge is to be made hasn't been provided to me. I've been RUI since July of this year, I don't know how long it will take for them to make a decision or how long it has taken them to examine my devices such as phone and laptop, or do you think they've already examined them by now? They've had my devices since April. I haven't been interviewed again. Do you think they'll look through everything since beginning of time on phone and laptop or just bits and pieces? The officer who arrested me informed me a few months after that my devices were in the process of being looked at, then a week or so later called to inform me ALL devices tested positive. I told him that was impossible and demanded he detailed what was found and where, the response I got was "I can not tell you" and he hung up on me. I informed my solicitor of this protesting the claims ALL devices tested positive yet he done nothing about it. Police in all regions work differently to others, so there is no guarantee they will inspect your devices in the next few months or over all of next year. But when they do finally get round to it they will inform you if they found anything or not. Seeing as you are not under any form of restrictions, try and live your life as normal as possible until they contact you. Document everything you are told / record if possible (even your solicitor) So really, the moment they find something they told you immediately so it seems. In the circumstances of them investigating things of sexual nature involving children then I'd assume it would be top priority to them? Police will prioritize what gives them the best results, whether they inform you or not is really all down to the officers mood and personality. I would think if anything was found they would inform you right away, but would happily delay informing you and prolonging the return of your devices when they find nothing. I do hope though this will get resolved for you quickly and the return of your devices, being dragged through the broken justice system we have is not a nice experience. I've just recieved good news 3hrs ago I just got an email from my solicitor, she told me police decided not to charge me. NFA. This is great news, Any word on if you will be getting your devices back soon or still unclear? Solicitor said that officer in charge of case would send a letter and phone me to arrange a date for return of my property. Hi Mine was not an internet offence yet they still took everything and it was a year later I got it back. However during that time they did let me have a backup of my data from my laptop. My disappointment was they did all this but would not go to my mobile phone service provider to get copies of "blackmail" text messages sent to me; even though I had given them the date, times, name and number of the sender! Understanding the processes and / or logic of an investigation is hindered due to an agenda of imposing psychological pressure on someone suspected / accused of an offence. Well so far haven't recieved any letter yet, no phone call, nothing. I did say previously, that it take a few months at least and that you would have to chase them up a few times. Don't forget to ask them to remove your DNA and fingerprints from their computer system as well. I just sent an email to my solicitor to chase them up on it Got no reply, been ignored by both parties, may have to try calling them via phone and if that doesn't work then I'm going to sue them both. Hi Bit of advice if I may. I have written previously that the best info I read when "entering the Justice System", is to forget about time as you appreciate it. Your solicitors have probably downgraded their attention with you as they see no or limited further financial gains from you. Plus they do like to keep friendly with the Police so why should they cause issues. The system, why would they rush? My passport was taken by the Met Police but was ordered by a Judge to return it. They ignored this order until I wrote to the Judge repeatedly; bypassing my solicitor, and he ordered them again or answer back to him. The reply from the Met Police was that they had lost it; even though they declared they had it a couple of weeks previously. It's called "deniable revenge". I would consider bypassing your solicitor; especially if you have no further use of him, and write to the Police Commissioner explaining clearly and simply attaching copies of you solicitors letters. Good luck I've attempted to contact both parties involved, the solicitor and the OIC. Officer in charge gave excuses for not sending a NFA letter and said it was because of data protection, I think it's just laziness on their part. When I questioned them about why they didn't call and leave a message on the landline they said it was because of data protection and didn't want my family who live with me to listen in to my conversation which I think is ironic and laughable since they're the same officer that listened in with their friend in conversations with me, my Dad and my solicitor when they weren't supposed to at all. Leaving a message on an answering machine could potentially be a breach, because they do not know who might pick it up. As for letters, it is the OICs choice whether to send one or not. https://beta.northumbria.police.uk/about-us/publications-and-documents/accessing-information/disclosure-log/policy-and-procedure/nfa-procedure-following-arrest-127620/ Well that's retarded because my family are aware and are involved since they are witnesses to me being at home I can understand your frustration but getting angry is not the answer. Bide your time and keep everything written or recorded. Then once the time is right you can seek any legal action you can and wish to take.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xI don't want to sound unsympathetic, but neither the police, or your solicitor, will be particularly concerned about how the investigation is affecting your mental health. That is because there is nothing unusual, about having to wait years, for the justice system to resolve a case. They see it every day, with every person that is accused. The CPS and the court system are overloaded with cases, waiting to come to court. That's just the way it is. There is nothing you can do, to speed things up. It isn't the fault of your solicitor, or the police, that things take so long. It is down to chronic underfunding of the system, over many years. You could try complaining to your MP, although I doubt that would speed things up either. If you are on police bail, then you are subject to some restrictions on your life, but if you were RUI (released under investigation), then you are a free man, so try to live a normal life. That of course, is easier said than done. The police advised me to carry on as usual, not to quit my job or anything. I had a holiday booked and I asked the police if I could still go abroad. They said no problem. I could have got on a plane and disappeared from the UK, never to return. If you need mental health support, then speak to a GP. I was on anti depressants and going to therapy, all the time I was RUI, which helped. Plus you have family members to support you. I can understand why you might not want to go out, if other people know that you have been arrested, although it is unlikely that this information will have been passed to the media. That only happens after you have been to court. Most important, remember that you are innocent until proven guilty, so you have nothing to be ashamed off. When it comes to wrongful or unlawful arrest, and suing the police for abusing their powers, bear in mind that the police are allowed to arrest you, if they have reasonable suspicion. If they later decide not to charge you, then it was still a lawful arrest, provided they can demonstrate they had enough evidence for a reasonable suspicion. This means they think they already have some kind of evidence, for them pick on you. They need a much greater amount of evidence to charge you though, and often when they seize people's devices, a lot of the time they are on a fishing expedition. They are hoping it will turn up more evidence. You don't say if you have been interviewed or not, but the questions that the police ask, will give you an indication of what evidence they have for reasonable suspicion. They will look for things like a possible connection to the victim. Do you know the victim, or have you previously been in contact with them, for example. When it comes to your internet browsing history, that is almost seen as a window into someone's mind, so the police will be searching for anything linking you to the victim, such as visiting their social media pages. I understand what you mean, currently on RUI, no info as to whether or not a charge is to be made hasn't been provided to me. I've been RUI since July of this year, I don't know how long it will take for them to make a decision or how long it has taken them to examine my devices such as phone and laptop, or do you think they've already examined them by now? They've had my devices since April. I haven't been interviewed again. Do you think they'll look through everything since beginning of time on phone and laptop or just bits and pieces? The officer who arrested me informed me a few months after that my devices were in the process of being looked at, then a week or so later called to inform me ALL devices tested positive. I told him that was impossible and demanded he detailed what was found and where, the response I got was "I can not tell you" and he hung up on me. I informed my solicitor of this protesting the claims ALL devices tested positive yet he done nothing about it. Police in all regions work differently to others, so there is no guarantee they will inspect your devices in the next few months or over all of next year. But when they do finally get round to it they will inform you if they found anything or not. Seeing as you are not under any form of restrictions, try and live your life as normal as possible until they contact you. Document everything you are told / record if possible (even your solicitor) So really, the moment they find something they told you immediately so it seems. In the circumstances of them investigating things of sexual nature involving children then I'd assume it would be top priority to them? Police will prioritize what gives them the best results, whether they inform you or not is really all down to the officers mood and personality. I would think if anything was found they would inform you right away, but would happily delay informing you and prolonging the return of your devices when they find nothing. I do hope though this will get resolved for you quickly and the return of your devices, being dragged through the broken justice system we have is not a nice experience. I've just recieved good news 3hrs ago I just got an email from my solicitor, she told me police decided not to charge me. NFA. This is great news, Any word on if you will be getting your devices back soon or still unclear? Solicitor said that officer in charge of case would send a letter and phone me to arrange a date for return of my property. Hi Mine was not an internet offence yet they still took everything and it was a year later I got it back. However during that time they did let me have a backup of my data from my laptop. My disappointment was they did all this but would not go to my mobile phone service provider to get copies of "blackmail" text messages sent to me; even though I had given them the date, times, name and number of the sender! Understanding the processes and / or logic of an investigation is hindered due to an agenda of imposing psychological pressure on someone suspected / accused of an offence. Well so far haven't recieved any letter yet, no phone call, nothing. I did say previously, that it take a few months at least and that you would have to chase them up a few times. Don't forget to ask them to remove your DNA and fingerprints from their computer system as well. I just sent an email to my solicitor to chase them up on it Got no reply, been ignored by both parties, may have to try calling them via phone and if that doesn't work then I'm going to sue them both. Hi Bit of advice if I may. I have written previously that the best info I read when "entering the Justice System", is to forget about time as you appreciate it. Your solicitors have probably downgraded their attention with you as they see no or limited further financial gains from you. Plus they do like to keep friendly with the Police so why should they cause issues. The system, why would they rush? My passport was taken by the Met Police but was ordered by a Judge to return it. They ignored this order until I wrote to the Judge repeatedly; bypassing my solicitor, and he ordered them again or answer back to him. The reply from the Met Police was that they had lost it; even though they declared they had it a couple of weeks previously. It's called "deniable revenge". I would consider bypassing your solicitor; especially if you have no further use of him, and write to the Police Commissioner explaining clearly and simply attaching copies of you solicitors letters. Good luck I've attempted to contact both parties involved, the solicitor and the OIC. Officer in charge gave excuses for not sending a NFA letter and said it was because of data protection, I think it's just laziness on their part. When I questioned them about why they didn't call and leave a message on the landline they said it was because of data protection and didn't want my family who live with me to listen in to my conversation which I think is ironic and laughable since they're the same officer that listened in with their friend in conversations with me, my Dad and my solicitor when they weren't supposed to at all. Leaving a message on an answering machine could potentially be a breach, because they do not know who might pick it up. As for letters, it is the OICs choice whether to send one or not. https://beta.northumbria.police.uk/about-us/publications-and-documents/accessing-information/disclosure-log/policy-and-procedure/nfa-procedure-following-arrest-127620/ Well that's retarded because my family are aware and are involved since they are witnesses to me being at home Hi We all understand as we have also gone through the process. I can only repeat for you to mentally step back and do not increase the stress by picking apart the type of replies you mention. Only a legal person is able to really challenge them. Note the supportive advice provided in your topic, list it in order of action and concentrate undertaking the actions in an "unemotional" manner.
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In the past, I used to have a job that involved working with the public, and we were told not to leave messages on answering machines, as there was no way of knowing who had access to those machines. Leaving a voicemail message on someone's phone was ok. So I would expect that other branches of the public sector, such as the police, have been told the same thing. It's not a matter of whether you think the rules are stupid, or not. If those are the rules, in your organisation, then you have to follow them. We've already established, during this conversation, that some people are looking for a reason, that might allow them to sue the police, so why, as a police officer, would I give that person a possible excuse to sue me? Below is a very interesting case of the police being sued for breaching the data protection act. It may be helpful, if you are considering going down that route. https://www.donoghue-solicitors.co.uk/actions-against-the-police/case-reports/nigel-lang-breach-data-protection-act-claim/
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Chesire
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+xIn the past, I used to have a job that involved working with the public, and we were told not to leave messages on answering machines, as there was no way of knowing who had access to those machines. Leaving a voicemail message on someone's phone was ok. So I would expect that other branches of the public sector, such as the police, have been told the same thing. It's not a matter of whether you think the rules are stupid, or not. If those are the rules, in your organisation, then you have to follow them. We've already established, during this conversation, that some people are looking for a reason, that might allow them to sue the police, so why, as a police officer, would I give that person a possible excuse to sue me? Below is a very interesting case of the police being sued for breaching the data protection act. It may be helpful, if you are considering going down that route. https://www.donoghue-solicitors.co.uk/actions-against-the-police/case-reports/nigel-lang-breach-data-protection-act-claim/ You're a policeman?
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+x+xIn the past, I used to have a job that involved working with the public, and we were told not to leave messages on answering machines, as there was no way of knowing who had access to those machines. Leaving a voicemail message on someone's phone was ok. So I would expect that other branches of the public sector, such as the police, have been told the same thing. It's not a matter of whether you think the rules are stupid, or not. If those are the rules, in your organisation, then you have to follow them. We've already established, during this conversation, that some people are looking for a reason, that might allow them to sue the police, so why, as a police officer, would I give that person a possible excuse to sue me? Below is a very interesting case of the police being sued for breaching the data protection act. It may be helpful, if you are considering going down that route. https://www.donoghue-solicitors.co.uk/actions-against-the-police/case-reports/nigel-lang-breach-data-protection-act-claim/ You're a policeman? No, I was saying that if I were a policeman, then why would I give the person who wants to sue me, an excuse to do just that.
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+x+xIn the past, I used to have a job that involved working with the public, and we were told not to leave messages on answering machines, as there was no way of knowing who had access to those machines. Leaving a voicemail message on someone's phone was ok. So I would expect that other branches of the public sector, such as the police, have been told the same thing. It's not a matter of whether you think the rules are stupid, or not. If those are the rules, in your organisation, then you have to follow them. We've already established, during this conversation, that some people are looking for a reason, that might allow them to sue the police, so why, as a police officer, would I give that person a possible excuse to sue me? Below is a very interesting case of the police being sued for breaching the data protection act. It may be helpful, if you are considering going down that route. https://www.donoghue-solicitors.co.uk/actions-against-the-police/case-reports/nigel-lang-breach-data-protection-act-claim/ You're a policeman? Hi Chesire, With the greatest respect, please take a moment to step back and look at it from the justice systems perspective. Try to see the logic or agendas behind the actions of those that are charged with defending "society", and are chastised which ever process they follow. Know, "someone" will always disagree with their actions because they do not know or cannot see the "political and image focused logic" they have to follow. They will always place the "image" of the Police first when they make a list to help with decisions; especially ones that easily get "societies hecklers" agitated.
Society suggests I must let go of all my expectations but I disagree, as whilst I have a voice, I have hope.
Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope is for tomorrow else what is left if you remove a mans hope.
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Here's an update
Got a letter from property team listing the stuff they are gonna release back to me, all of the exception of the HP silver laptop that they stole. Property team came up with excuses stating that they're not sending back the laptop because the OIC hasn't authorized for it's release despite the case being concluded. I wonder why this is the case. This ordeal has really pissed me off.
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+xHere's an update Got a letter from property team listing the stuff they are gonna release back to me, all of the exception of the HP silver laptop that they stole. Property team came up with excuses stating that they're not sending back the laptop because the OIC hasn't authorized for it's release despite the case being concluded. I wonder why this is the case. This ordeal has really pissed me off. It might be left off the list if the OIC "accidentally" forgot to authorise release, or they might be saying that they are using it to investigate a different case, either against you or against someone else. If they're finally communicating, you can at least ask the question. Or ask them to ask the question. 🤞
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If you are to punish a man retributively you must injure him. If you are to reform him you must improve him. And men are not improved by injuries. (George Bernard Shaw)
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