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Post Brexit- impact on travelling to Europe


Post Brexit- impact on travelling to Europe

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For those keeping track the Entry Exit System has been indefinitely delayed with talk of watering it down completely. Rumours suggest a soft launch late next year. As ETIAS has to follow at least 6 months after that we'll see it being bumped too. My current reckoning on dates for ETIAS would be the following:

Operational May 2026
Compulsory November 2026 or May 2027
Single entry maybe November 2027 or May 2028




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AB2014 - 19 Mar 24 9:43 AM
marcovanba - 16 Mar 24 10:08 PM
With this looking likely for 2025, does anyone have any thoughts on how it may look?

I spent a lot of time in Europe so concerned it could have some sort of impact

My conviction (2 years suspended) was for fraud in 2015 (so 9 years past and 3 years spent) and not sure on the likelihood I will still be able to travel to Europe

The UK does not share criminal record info with any other countries or the EU (which isn't a country, obviously). There is no link between your UK passport and your criminal record, and any information put on the Schengen Information System by the UK police was removed as a part of Brexit (not relevant to you but maybe relevant to others). So, if you choose not to disclose, they won't know, but if you travel without disclosing under ETIAS, if you ever need a Schengen visa, you will need a police certificate, which will show your record, and they would then see that you had travelled without disclosing at a time when you should have disclosed, which would give them a decision to make. For now, though, until ETIAS starts, you do not need to disclose.

I know I'm replying to a super old post but I've only just seen this. My wife has had to get a Schengen visa a few times (she is not an EU or UK citizen) and she's never had to get any police details on herself. Yes she ticks a box to say she doesn't have any convictions but the visa is more concerned about financial status and if you have a valid reason to return to your port or origin.
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expatofff - 17 Oct 24 11:55 PM
AB2014 - 19 Mar 24 9:43 AM
marcovanba - 16 Mar 24 10:08 PM
With this looking likely for 2025, does anyone have any thoughts on how it may look?

I spent a lot of time in Europe so concerned it could have some sort of impact

My conviction (2 years suspended) was for fraud in 2015 (so 9 years past and 3 years spent) and not sure on the likelihood I will still be able to travel to Europe

The UK does not share criminal record info with any other countries or the EU (which isn't a country, obviously). There is no link between your UK passport and your criminal record, and any information put on the Schengen Information System by the UK police was removed as a part of Brexit (not relevant to you but maybe relevant to others). So, if you choose not to disclose, they won't know, but if you travel without disclosing under ETIAS, if you ever need a Schengen visa, you will need a police certificate, which will show your record, and they would then see that you had travelled without disclosing at a time when you should have disclosed, which would give them a decision to make. For now, though, until ETIAS starts, you do not need to disclose.

I know I'm replying to a super old post but I've only just seen this. My wife has had to get a Schengen visa a few times (she is not an EU or UK citizen) and she's never had to get any police details on herself. Yes she ticks a box to say she doesn't have any convictions but the visa is more concerned about financial status and if you have a valid reason to return to your port or origin.

There are no criminal record questions on the harmonised application form, probably because criminal record questions are asked if someone applies for residence in a particular Schengen country. It does seem strange, though, that we will be asked the question for ETIAS applications but not visa applications, unless individual countries ask anyway.

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AB2014 - 22 Oct 24 9:23 AM
expatofff - 17 Oct 24 11:55 PM
AB2014 - 19 Mar 24 9:43 AM
marcovanba - 16 Mar 24 10:08 PM
With this looking likely for 2025, does anyone have any thoughts on how it may look?

I spent a lot of time in Europe so concerned it could have some sort of impact

My conviction (2 years suspended) was for fraud in 2015 (so 9 years past and 3 years spent) and not sure on the likelihood I will still be able to travel to Europe

The UK does not share criminal record info with any other countries or the EU (which isn't a country, obviously). There is no link between your UK passport and your criminal record, and any information put on the Schengen Information System by the UK police was removed as a part of Brexit (not relevant to you but maybe relevant to others). So, if you choose not to disclose, they won't know, but if you travel without disclosing under ETIAS, if you ever need a Schengen visa, you will need a police certificate, which will show your record, and they would then see that you had travelled without disclosing at a time when you should have disclosed, which would give them a decision to make. For now, though, until ETIAS starts, you do not need to disclose.

I know I'm replying to a super old post but I've only just seen this. My wife has had to get a Schengen visa a few times (she is not an EU or UK citizen) and she's never had to get any police details on herself. Yes she ticks a box to say she doesn't have any convictions but the visa is more concerned about financial status and if you have a valid reason to return to your port or origin.

There are no criminal record questions on the harmonised application form, probably because criminal record questions are asked if someone applies for residence in a particular Schengen country. It does seem strange, though, that we will be asked the question for ETIAS applications but not visa applications, unless individual countries ask anyway.

Yes, I agree. Since when does things like this ever make sense though?

At the start of this year I was barred from a country because they'd kept a green notice (I may have the colour wrong, the one where they are seeking information on you) over 10 years. They didn't even know of my crimes and thought I would willingly tell them after they'd already told me I wouldn't get in.

Life is strange and I think sometimes just easier if we accept it with a bit of a head scratch at times!
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