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I was wrongfully arrested and had my items seized- What now?


I was wrongfully arrested and had my items seized- What now?

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Chesire - 18 Dec 21 11:57 AM
xDanx - 17 Dec 21 1:40 PM
Chesire - 17 Dec 21 9:38 AM
punter99 - 16 Dec 21 11:29 AM
Chesire - 16 Dec 21 7:51 AM
So to put a long story short, this year 2021 in April on 23rd I was wrongfully arrested by a group of officers on 'suspicion of indecent exposure', they did this on the grounds of me apparently looking like the efit when in fact I look nothing like the efit at all as my visual appearance and the descriptions witnesses gave don't match. The guy they're looking for has short hair in a curtains hairstyle and is skinny 5'6
in their 20s, 30s that wears a black tracksuit and nike 720 trainers. Here's a picture of the efit. I was at home more than likely when all of these alleged offences occurred during February or March I think, even had CCTV footage to cover one of the days as an alibi. 


Now here's a picture of me, they're basically saying I look like the efit, I've had my long hair for about a year now and it's gotten longer too. I did take part in a digital video VIPER ID parade but again no results have been given to me. My entire interview was a 'No comment interview', police even eavesdropped on conversations I was having with my solicitor which they shouldn't of been doing.
 
When I was arrested, I had my clothes, laptop and mobile phone taken for evidence. At the time of me writing this, we're now in December and well, I last contacted my solicitor for an update but they keep giving me the same BS response telling me to wait to be contacted when all I did was ask for updates, I get told, 'wait to be notified' what a load of bollocks. What the hell are police even doing? Scratching their arse and eating donuts and bacon? Has the devices already been examined? Or are they locked away in an evidence locker waiting to be examined? If devices were examined then why has no update been given? Will CPS be notified regarding my fate? If devices were examined, would they be looking through everything since the beginning of time or would they only look for couple things around the time of the alleged offences happen to build a case against me and to find a trend of alleged behaviours to use in-court? I've been bailed after my arrest, then the bail was extended, then on 23rd July I was released under investigation and so I am awaiting the outcome. Am I sort of worried about being charged even though I wasn't there and my parents can confirm I wasn't there at the time of when this stuff allegedly happened in the town I live in as I don't go out anywhere.

I'm hoping I will be cleared of all this and hoping and praying I get my stuff back. I want to sue police for unlawful arrest. If they don't return my things, what can I do?


There is always a backlog of devices, waiting to be examined. Yours will be somewhere in the queue. Depends which police force it was and how busy they are, as to how long it will take for them to get back to you. It could easily be 12 months, or 2 years. When they finally decide what to do, you will probably receive a letter. That letter will either say NFA - No further action, or it could be a list of charges, if they find something. They will go through your internet browsing history and all your phone messages, looking for evidence to link you to the offence.

You could ask the police to give you a very rough timeframe, for how long it is taking them to examine devices, at the moment. But they will not give you an exact date. I was told 6 months, but it was 8 months before I heard anything. Assuming you are not charged, it could then be a few more months, after the letter, before they actually return your devices, and you will probably need to chase them up a few times, during that period, because it is not regarded as a high priority, for them to return things, after an investigation.

My question is, how long would it take for them to actually come back to me with a final decision? And is it always through by post? As far as I'm aware there's nothing illegal on any of my devices and my search history is pretty normal too. I'm pretty sure that if there was anything illegal on them like say for example cp then I'd be charged and arrested straightaway I think. I don't know how the full process works to be honest.

Would they look through everything on the phone and laptop since the beginning of the time? Or would it just be a couple things they could perhaps look for to connect to alleged offences?


When it comes to technology, one thing I am constantly hearing is the Police are far behind. My own solicitor even stated to me that I would more likely than not, be more qualified than those conducting forensics. Yet despite my instructions, refused to confirm the evidence being found on my devices because I knew it to be false. They claimed my offence dated back 10+ years! which is completely false because I never even had those devices 10+years, they claimed they found evidence on devices I know to be impossible. I made subject access requests to Police demanding information in what was found and where, they still refuse to provide me with this information. Although I did plead guilty to offences I was charged with, I wish I knew what I knew now before I gave my plea as I was ultimately let down by my solicitors.

At this stage, it really is unclear how long Police will take before they give you your devices back. I know of someone else who was investigated and it took 2 or 3 years at least only to be given a caution, told devices would not be given back and never challenged it. If you are yet to be charged for anything then there is little your solicitor can do other than keep putting pressure on the Police to either charge you or drop the matter entirely.

I don't understand, if you deny what was found then why the heck did you plead guilty? Or was that for something non-related?

I do not deny the offence, given the fact I was downloading a lot of things at the time. A lot of what I remember in my view was adult material but it is possible some might not have been. So, on that basis I decided to just plead guilty as advised by my solicitors out of fear of being sent to prison. Because of this, I suspect this gave Police the opportunity to falsify reports because they are claiming ALL devices tested positive yet I know with certainty this is not true. Yet at this stage there is nothing I can do other than challenge my SHPO as I have found it to be disproportionate, it is just finding that courage to take action I am having difficulty with.

In your case, it just seems Police are abusing powers and your solicitor needs to keep putting pressure on them. After my experience with Police and various other news related to Police, I too have lost all faith in them.
I hope this matter gets settled for you soon and your successful in suing them.



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xDanx - 18 Dec 21 11:17 PM
Chesire - 18 Dec 21 11:57 AM
xDanx - 17 Dec 21 1:40 PM
Chesire - 17 Dec 21 9:38 AM
punter99 - 16 Dec 21 11:29 AM
Chesire - 16 Dec 21 7:51 AM
So to put a long story short, this year 2021 in April on 23rd I was wrongfully arrested by a group of officers on 'suspicion of indecent exposure', they did this on the grounds of me apparently looking like the efit when in fact I look nothing like the efit at all as my visual appearance and the descriptions witnesses gave don't match. The guy they're looking for has short hair in a curtains hairstyle and is skinny 5'6
in their 20s, 30s that wears a black tracksuit and nike 720 trainers. Here's a picture of the efit. I was at home more than likely when all of these alleged offences occurred during February or March I think, even had CCTV footage to cover one of the days as an alibi. 


Now here's a picture of me, they're basically saying I look like the efit, I've had my long hair for about a year now and it's gotten longer too. I did take part in a digital video VIPER ID parade but again no results have been given to me. My entire interview was a 'No comment interview', police even eavesdropped on conversations I was having with my solicitor which they shouldn't of been doing.
 
When I was arrested, I had my clothes, laptop and mobile phone taken for evidence. At the time of me writing this, we're now in December and well, I last contacted my solicitor for an update but they keep giving me the same BS response telling me to wait to be contacted when all I did was ask for updates, I get told, 'wait to be notified' what a load of bollocks. What the hell are police even doing? Scratching their arse and eating donuts and bacon? Has the devices already been examined? Or are they locked away in an evidence locker waiting to be examined? If devices were examined then why has no update been given? Will CPS be notified regarding my fate? If devices were examined, would they be looking through everything since the beginning of time or would they only look for couple things around the time of the alleged offences happen to build a case against me and to find a trend of alleged behaviours to use in-court? I've been bailed after my arrest, then the bail was extended, then on 23rd July I was released under investigation and so I am awaiting the outcome. Am I sort of worried about being charged even though I wasn't there and my parents can confirm I wasn't there at the time of when this stuff allegedly happened in the town I live in as I don't go out anywhere.

I'm hoping I will be cleared of all this and hoping and praying I get my stuff back. I want to sue police for unlawful arrest. If they don't return my things, what can I do?


There is always a backlog of devices, waiting to be examined. Yours will be somewhere in the queue. Depends which police force it was and how busy they are, as to how long it will take for them to get back to you. It could easily be 12 months, or 2 years. When they finally decide what to do, you will probably receive a letter. That letter will either say NFA - No further action, or it could be a list of charges, if they find something. They will go through your internet browsing history and all your phone messages, looking for evidence to link you to the offence.

You could ask the police to give you a very rough timeframe, for how long it is taking them to examine devices, at the moment. But they will not give you an exact date. I was told 6 months, but it was 8 months before I heard anything. Assuming you are not charged, it could then be a few more months, after the letter, before they actually return your devices, and you will probably need to chase them up a few times, during that period, because it is not regarded as a high priority, for them to return things, after an investigation.

My question is, how long would it take for them to actually come back to me with a final decision? And is it always through by post? As far as I'm aware there's nothing illegal on any of my devices and my search history is pretty normal too. I'm pretty sure that if there was anything illegal on them like say for example cp then I'd be charged and arrested straightaway I think. I don't know how the full process works to be honest.

Would they look through everything on the phone and laptop since the beginning of the time? Or would it just be a couple things they could perhaps look for to connect to alleged offences?


When it comes to technology, one thing I am constantly hearing is the Police are far behind. My own solicitor even stated to me that I would more likely than not, be more qualified than those conducting forensics. Yet despite my instructions, refused to confirm the evidence being found on my devices because I knew it to be false. They claimed my offence dated back 10+ years! which is completely false because I never even had those devices 10+years, they claimed they found evidence on devices I know to be impossible. I made subject access requests to Police demanding information in what was found and where, they still refuse to provide me with this information. Although I did plead guilty to offences I was charged with, I wish I knew what I knew now before I gave my plea as I was ultimately let down by my solicitors.

At this stage, it really is unclear how long Police will take before they give you your devices back. I know of someone else who was investigated and it took 2 or 3 years at least only to be given a caution, told devices would not be given back and never challenged it. If you are yet to be charged for anything then there is little your solicitor can do other than keep putting pressure on the Police to either charge you or drop the matter entirely.

I don't understand, if you deny what was found then why the heck did you plead guilty? Or was that for something non-related?

I do not deny the offence, given the fact I was downloading a lot of things at the time. A lot of what I remember in my view was adult material but it is possible some might not have been. So, on that basis I decided to just plead guilty as advised by my solicitors out of fear of being sent to prison. Because of this, I suspect this gave Police the opportunity to falsify reports because they are claiming ALL devices tested positive yet I know with certainty this is not true. Yet at this stage there is nothing I can do other than challenge my SHPO as I have found it to be disproportionate, it is just finding that courage to take action I am having difficulty with.

In your case, it just seems Police are abusing powers and your solicitor needs to keep putting pressure on them. After my experience with Police and various other news related to Police, I too have lost all faith in them.
I hope this matter gets settled for you soon and your successful in suing them.



Thank you, I really appreciate it. I'm thinking of contacting my solicitor on 20th.
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xDanx - 18 Dec 21 11:17 PM
Chesire - 18 Dec 21 11:57 AM
xDanx - 17 Dec 21 1:40 PM
Chesire - 17 Dec 21 9:38 AM
punter99 - 16 Dec 21 11:29 AM
Chesire - 16 Dec 21 7:51 AM
So to put a long story short, this year 2021 in April on 23rd I was wrongfully arrested by a group of officers on 'suspicion of indecent exposure', they did this on the grounds of me apparently looking like the efit when in fact I look nothing like the efit at all as my visual appearance and the descriptions witnesses gave don't match. The guy they're looking for has short hair in a curtains hairstyle and is skinny 5'6
in their 20s, 30s that wears a black tracksuit and nike 720 trainers. Here's a picture of the efit. I was at home more than likely when all of these alleged offences occurred during February or March I think, even had CCTV footage to cover one of the days as an alibi. 


Now here's a picture of me, they're basically saying I look like the efit, I've had my long hair for about a year now and it's gotten longer too. I did take part in a digital video VIPER ID parade but again no results have been given to me. My entire interview was a 'No comment interview', police even eavesdropped on conversations I was having with my solicitor which they shouldn't of been doing.
 
When I was arrested, I had my clothes, laptop and mobile phone taken for evidence. At the time of me writing this, we're now in December and well, I last contacted my solicitor for an update but they keep giving me the same BS response telling me to wait to be contacted when all I did was ask for updates, I get told, 'wait to be notified' what a load of bollocks. What the hell are police even doing? Scratching their arse and eating donuts and bacon? Has the devices already been examined? Or are they locked away in an evidence locker waiting to be examined? If devices were examined then why has no update been given? Will CPS be notified regarding my fate? If devices were examined, would they be looking through everything since the beginning of time or would they only look for couple things around the time of the alleged offences happen to build a case against me and to find a trend of alleged behaviours to use in-court? I've been bailed after my arrest, then the bail was extended, then on 23rd July I was released under investigation and so I am awaiting the outcome. Am I sort of worried about being charged even though I wasn't there and my parents can confirm I wasn't there at the time of when this stuff allegedly happened in the town I live in as I don't go out anywhere.

I'm hoping I will be cleared of all this and hoping and praying I get my stuff back. I want to sue police for unlawful arrest. If they don't return my things, what can I do?


There is always a backlog of devices, waiting to be examined. Yours will be somewhere in the queue. Depends which police force it was and how busy they are, as to how long it will take for them to get back to you. It could easily be 12 months, or 2 years. When they finally decide what to do, you will probably receive a letter. That letter will either say NFA - No further action, or it could be a list of charges, if they find something. They will go through your internet browsing history and all your phone messages, looking for evidence to link you to the offence.

You could ask the police to give you a very rough timeframe, for how long it is taking them to examine devices, at the moment. But they will not give you an exact date. I was told 6 months, but it was 8 months before I heard anything. Assuming you are not charged, it could then be a few more months, after the letter, before they actually return your devices, and you will probably need to chase them up a few times, during that period, because it is not regarded as a high priority, for them to return things, after an investigation.

My question is, how long would it take for them to actually come back to me with a final decision? And is it always through by post? As far as I'm aware there's nothing illegal on any of my devices and my search history is pretty normal too. I'm pretty sure that if there was anything illegal on them like say for example cp then I'd be charged and arrested straightaway I think. I don't know how the full process works to be honest.

Would they look through everything on the phone and laptop since the beginning of the time? Or would it just be a couple things they could perhaps look for to connect to alleged offences?


When it comes to technology, one thing I am constantly hearing is the Police are far behind. My own solicitor even stated to me that I would more likely than not, be more qualified than those conducting forensics. Yet despite my instructions, refused to confirm the evidence being found on my devices because I knew it to be false. They claimed my offence dated back 10+ years! which is completely false because I never even had those devices 10+years, they claimed they found evidence on devices I know to be impossible. I made subject access requests to Police demanding information in what was found and where, they still refuse to provide me with this information. Although I did plead guilty to offences I was charged with, I wish I knew what I knew now before I gave my plea as I was ultimately let down by my solicitors.

At this stage, it really is unclear how long Police will take before they give you your devices back. I know of someone else who was investigated and it took 2 or 3 years at least only to be given a caution, told devices would not be given back and never challenged it. If you are yet to be charged for anything then there is little your solicitor can do other than keep putting pressure on the Police to either charge you or drop the matter entirely.

I don't understand, if you deny what was found then why the heck did you plead guilty? Or was that for something non-related?

I do not deny the offence, given the fact I was downloading a lot of things at the time. A lot of what I remember in my view was adult material but it is possible some might not have been. So, on that basis I decided to just plead guilty as advised by my solicitors out of fear of being sent to prison. Because of this, I suspect this gave Police the opportunity to falsify reports because they are claiming ALL devices tested positive yet I know with certainty this is not true. Yet at this stage there is nothing I can do other than challenge my SHPO as I have found it to be disproportionate, it is just finding that courage to take action I am having difficulty with.

In your case, it just seems Police are abusing powers and your solicitor needs to keep putting pressure on them. After my experience with Police and various other news related to Police, I too have lost all faith in them.
I hope this matter gets settled for you soon and your successful in suing them.



So here's what I said to my solicitor just now, I decided to do it a day early.

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Chesire - 19 Dec 21 7:44 AM
xDanx - 18 Dec 21 11:17 PM
Chesire - 18 Dec 21 11:57 AM
xDanx - 17 Dec 21 1:40 PM
Chesire - 17 Dec 21 9:38 AM
punter99 - 16 Dec 21 11:29 AM
Chesire - 16 Dec 21 7:51 AM
So to put a long story short, this year 2021 in April on 23rd I was wrongfully arrested by a group of officers on 'suspicion of indecent exposure', they did this on the grounds of me apparently looking like the efit when in fact I look nothing like the efit at all as my visual appearance and the descriptions witnesses gave don't match. The guy they're looking for has short hair in a curtains hairstyle and is skinny 5'6
in their 20s, 30s that wears a black tracksuit and nike 720 trainers. Here's a picture of the efit. I was at home more than likely when all of these alleged offences occurred during February or March I think, even had CCTV footage to cover one of the days as an alibi. 


Now here's a picture of me, they're basically saying I look like the efit, I've had my long hair for about a year now and it's gotten longer too. I did take part in a digital video VIPER ID parade but again no results have been given to me. My entire interview was a 'No comment interview', police even eavesdropped on conversations I was having with my solicitor which they shouldn't of been doing.
 
When I was arrested, I had my clothes, laptop and mobile phone taken for evidence. At the time of me writing this, we're now in December and well, I last contacted my solicitor for an update but they keep giving me the same BS response telling me to wait to be contacted when all I did was ask for updates, I get told, 'wait to be notified' what a load of bollocks. What the hell are police even doing? Scratching their arse and eating donuts and bacon? Has the devices already been examined? Or are they locked away in an evidence locker waiting to be examined? If devices were examined then why has no update been given? Will CPS be notified regarding my fate? If devices were examined, would they be looking through everything since the beginning of time or would they only look for couple things around the time of the alleged offences happen to build a case against me and to find a trend of alleged behaviours to use in-court? I've been bailed after my arrest, then the bail was extended, then on 23rd July I was released under investigation and so I am awaiting the outcome. Am I sort of worried about being charged even though I wasn't there and my parents can confirm I wasn't there at the time of when this stuff allegedly happened in the town I live in as I don't go out anywhere.

I'm hoping I will be cleared of all this and hoping and praying I get my stuff back. I want to sue police for unlawful arrest. If they don't return my things, what can I do?


There is always a backlog of devices, waiting to be examined. Yours will be somewhere in the queue. Depends which police force it was and how busy they are, as to how long it will take for them to get back to you. It could easily be 12 months, or 2 years. When they finally decide what to do, you will probably receive a letter. That letter will either say NFA - No further action, or it could be a list of charges, if they find something. They will go through your internet browsing history and all your phone messages, looking for evidence to link you to the offence.

You could ask the police to give you a very rough timeframe, for how long it is taking them to examine devices, at the moment. But they will not give you an exact date. I was told 6 months, but it was 8 months before I heard anything. Assuming you are not charged, it could then be a few more months, after the letter, before they actually return your devices, and you will probably need to chase them up a few times, during that period, because it is not regarded as a high priority, for them to return things, after an investigation.

My question is, how long would it take for them to actually come back to me with a final decision? And is it always through by post? As far as I'm aware there's nothing illegal on any of my devices and my search history is pretty normal too. I'm pretty sure that if there was anything illegal on them like say for example cp then I'd be charged and arrested straightaway I think. I don't know how the full process works to be honest.

Would they look through everything on the phone and laptop since the beginning of the time? Or would it just be a couple things they could perhaps look for to connect to alleged offences?


When it comes to technology, one thing I am constantly hearing is the Police are far behind. My own solicitor even stated to me that I would more likely than not, be more qualified than those conducting forensics. Yet despite my instructions, refused to confirm the evidence being found on my devices because I knew it to be false. They claimed my offence dated back 10+ years! which is completely false because I never even had those devices 10+years, they claimed they found evidence on devices I know to be impossible. I made subject access requests to Police demanding information in what was found and where, they still refuse to provide me with this information. Although I did plead guilty to offences I was charged with, I wish I knew what I knew now before I gave my plea as I was ultimately let down by my solicitors.

At this stage, it really is unclear how long Police will take before they give you your devices back. I know of someone else who was investigated and it took 2 or 3 years at least only to be given a caution, told devices would not be given back and never challenged it. If you are yet to be charged for anything then there is little your solicitor can do other than keep putting pressure on the Police to either charge you or drop the matter entirely.

I don't understand, if you deny what was found then why the heck did you plead guilty? Or was that for something non-related?

I do not deny the offence, given the fact I was downloading a lot of things at the time. A lot of what I remember in my view was adult material but it is possible some might not have been. So, on that basis I decided to just plead guilty as advised by my solicitors out of fear of being sent to prison. Because of this, I suspect this gave Police the opportunity to falsify reports because they are claiming ALL devices tested positive yet I know with certainty this is not true. Yet at this stage there is nothing I can do other than challenge my SHPO as I have found it to be disproportionate, it is just finding that courage to take action I am having difficulty with.

In your case, it just seems Police are abusing powers and your solicitor needs to keep putting pressure on them. After my experience with Police and various other news related to Police, I too have lost all faith in them.
I hope this matter gets settled for you soon and your successful in suing them.



So here's what I said to my solicitor just now, I decided to do it a day early.

Well, no response from solicitor, they ignored me like they did before. If they continue to do this then I'm going to make a complaint to their firm, since they have standards to follow under SRA.
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I don't want to sound unsympathetic, but neither the police, or your solicitor, will be particularly concerned about how the investigation is affecting your mental health. That is because there is nothing unusual, about having to wait years, for the justice system to resolve a case. They see it every day, with every person that is accused. The CPS and the court system are overloaded with cases, waiting to come to court. That's just the way it is. There is nothing you can do, to speed things up. It isn't the fault of your solicitor, or the police, that things take so long. It is down to chronic underfunding of the system, over many years. You could try complaining to your MP, although I doubt that would speed things up either.

If you are on police bail, then you are subject to some restrictions on your life, but if you were RUI (released under investigation), then you are a free man, so try to live a normal life. That of course, is easier said than done. The police advised me to carry on as usual, not to quit my job or anything. I had a holiday booked and I asked the police if I could still go abroad. They said no problem. I could have got on a plane and disappeared from the UK, never to return.

If you need mental health support, then speak to a GP. I was on anti depressants and going to therapy, all the time I was RUI, which helped. Plus you have family members to support you. I can understand why you might not want to go out, if other people know that you have been arrested, although it is unlikely that this information will have been passed to the media. That only happens after you have been to court. Most important, remember that you are innocent until proven guilty, so you have nothing to be ashamed off.

When it comes to wrongful or unlawful arrest, and suing the police for abusing their powers, bear in mind that the police are allowed to arrest you, if they have reasonable suspicion. If they later decide not to charge you, then it was still a lawful arrest, provided they can demonstrate they had enough evidence for a reasonable suspicion.

This means they think they already have some kind of evidence, for them pick on you. They need a much greater amount of evidence to charge you though, and often when they seize people's devices, a lot of the time they are on a fishing expedition. They are hoping it will turn up more evidence. You don't say if you have been interviewed or not, but the questions that the police ask, will give you an indication of what evidence they have for reasonable suspicion.

They will look for things like a possible connection to the victim. Do you know the victim, or have you previously been in contact with them, for example. When it comes to your internet browsing history, that is almost seen as a window into someone's mind, so the police will be searching for anything linking you to the victim, such as visiting their social media pages.

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punter99 - 21 Dec 21 5:27 PM
I don't want to sound unsympathetic, but neither the police, or your solicitor, will be particularly concerned about how the investigation is affecting your mental health. That is because there is nothing unusual, about having to wait years, for the justice system to resolve a case. They see it every day, with every person that is accused. The CPS and the court system are overloaded with cases, waiting to come to court. That's just the way it is. There is nothing you can do, to speed things up. It isn't the fault of your solicitor, or the police, that things take so long. It is down to chronic underfunding of the system, over many years. You could try complaining to your MP, although I doubt that would speed things up either.

If you are on police bail, then you are subject to some restrictions on your life, but if you were RUI (released under investigation), then you are a free man, so try to live a normal life. That of course, is easier said than done. The police advised me to carry on as usual, not to quit my job or anything. I had a holiday booked and I asked the police if I could still go abroad. They said no problem. I could have got on a plane and disappeared from the UK, never to return.

If you need mental health support, then speak to a GP. I was on anti depressants and going to therapy, all the time I was RUI, which helped. Plus you have family members to support you. I can understand why you might not want to go out, if other people know that you have been arrested, although it is unlikely that this information will have been passed to the media. That only happens after you have been to court. Most important, remember that you are innocent until proven guilty, so you have nothing to be ashamed off.

When it comes to wrongful or unlawful arrest, and suing the police for abusing their powers, bear in mind that the police are allowed to arrest you, if they have reasonable suspicion. If they later decide not to charge you, then it was still a lawful arrest, provided they can demonstrate they had enough evidence for a reasonable suspicion.

This means they think they already have some kind of evidence, for them pick on you. They need a much greater amount of evidence to charge you though, and often when they seize people's devices, a lot of the time they are on a fishing expedition. They are hoping it will turn up more evidence. You don't say if you have been interviewed or not, but the questions that the police ask, will give you an indication of what evidence they have for reasonable suspicion.

They will look for things like a possible connection to the victim. Do you know the victim, or have you previously been in contact with them, for example. When it comes to your internet browsing history, that is almost seen as a window into someone's mind, so the police will be searching for anything linking you to the victim, such as visiting their social media pages.

I understand what you mean, currently on RUI, no info as to whether or not a charge is to be made hasn't been provided to me. I've been RUI since July of this year, I don't know how long it will take for them to make a decision or how long it has taken them to examine my devices such as phone and laptop, or do you think they've already examined them by now? They've had my devices since April. I haven't been interviewed again. Do you think they'll look through everything since beginning of time on phone and laptop or just bits and pieces?
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Chesire - 22 Dec 21 7:24 PM
punter99 - 21 Dec 21 5:27 PM
I don't want to sound unsympathetic, but neither the police, or your solicitor, will be particularly concerned about how the investigation is affecting your mental health. That is because there is nothing unusual, about having to wait years, for the justice system to resolve a case. They see it every day, with every person that is accused. The CPS and the court system are overloaded with cases, waiting to come to court. That's just the way it is. There is nothing you can do, to speed things up. It isn't the fault of your solicitor, or the police, that things take so long. It is down to chronic underfunding of the system, over many years. You could try complaining to your MP, although I doubt that would speed things up either.

If you are on police bail, then you are subject to some restrictions on your life, but if you were RUI (released under investigation), then you are a free man, so try to live a normal life. That of course, is easier said than done. The police advised me to carry on as usual, not to quit my job or anything. I had a holiday booked and I asked the police if I could still go abroad. They said no problem. I could have got on a plane and disappeared from the UK, never to return.

If you need mental health support, then speak to a GP. I was on anti depressants and going to therapy, all the time I was RUI, which helped. Plus you have family members to support you. I can understand why you might not want to go out, if other people know that you have been arrested, although it is unlikely that this information will have been passed to the media. That only happens after you have been to court. Most important, remember that you are innocent until proven guilty, so you have nothing to be ashamed off.

When it comes to wrongful or unlawful arrest, and suing the police for abusing their powers, bear in mind that the police are allowed to arrest you, if they have reasonable suspicion. If they later decide not to charge you, then it was still a lawful arrest, provided they can demonstrate they had enough evidence for a reasonable suspicion.

This means they think they already have some kind of evidence, for them pick on you. They need a much greater amount of evidence to charge you though, and often when they seize people's devices, a lot of the time they are on a fishing expedition. They are hoping it will turn up more evidence. You don't say if you have been interviewed or not, but the questions that the police ask, will give you an indication of what evidence they have for reasonable suspicion.

They will look for things like a possible connection to the victim. Do you know the victim, or have you previously been in contact with them, for example. When it comes to your internet browsing history, that is almost seen as a window into someone's mind, so the police will be searching for anything linking you to the victim, such as visiting their social media pages.

I understand what you mean, currently on RUI, no info as to whether or not a charge is to be made hasn't been provided to me. I've been RUI since July of this year, I don't know how long it will take for them to make a decision or how long it has taken them to examine my devices such as phone and laptop, or do you think they've already examined them by now? They've had my devices since April. I haven't been interviewed again. Do you think they'll look through everything since beginning of time on phone and laptop or just bits and pieces?

The officer who arrested me informed me a few months after that my devices were in the process of being looked at, then a week or so later called to inform me ALL devices tested positive. I told him that was impossible and demanded he detailed what was found and where, the response I got was "I can not tell you" and he hung up on me. I informed my solicitor of this protesting the claims ALL devices tested positive yet he done nothing about it.

Police in all regions work differently to others, so there is no guarantee they will inspect your devices in the next few months or over all of next year. But when they do finally get round to it they will inform you if they found anything or not.

Seeing as you are not under any form of restrictions, try and live your life as normal as possible until they contact you. Document everything you are told / record if possible (even your solicitor)

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xDanx - 22 Dec 21 8:06 PM
Chesire - 22 Dec 21 7:24 PM
punter99 - 21 Dec 21 5:27 PM
I don't want to sound unsympathetic, but neither the police, or your solicitor, will be particularly concerned about how the investigation is affecting your mental health. That is because there is nothing unusual, about having to wait years, for the justice system to resolve a case. They see it every day, with every person that is accused. The CPS and the court system are overloaded with cases, waiting to come to court. That's just the way it is. There is nothing you can do, to speed things up. It isn't the fault of your solicitor, or the police, that things take so long. It is down to chronic underfunding of the system, over many years. You could try complaining to your MP, although I doubt that would speed things up either.

If you are on police bail, then you are subject to some restrictions on your life, but if you were RUI (released under investigation), then you are a free man, so try to live a normal life. That of course, is easier said than done. The police advised me to carry on as usual, not to quit my job or anything. I had a holiday booked and I asked the police if I could still go abroad. They said no problem. I could have got on a plane and disappeared from the UK, never to return.

If you need mental health support, then speak to a GP. I was on anti depressants and going to therapy, all the time I was RUI, which helped. Plus you have family members to support you. I can understand why you might not want to go out, if other people know that you have been arrested, although it is unlikely that this information will have been passed to the media. That only happens after you have been to court. Most important, remember that you are innocent until proven guilty, so you have nothing to be ashamed off.

When it comes to wrongful or unlawful arrest, and suing the police for abusing their powers, bear in mind that the police are allowed to arrest you, if they have reasonable suspicion. If they later decide not to charge you, then it was still a lawful arrest, provided they can demonstrate they had enough evidence for a reasonable suspicion.

This means they think they already have some kind of evidence, for them pick on you. They need a much greater amount of evidence to charge you though, and often when they seize people's devices, a lot of the time they are on a fishing expedition. They are hoping it will turn up more evidence. You don't say if you have been interviewed or not, but the questions that the police ask, will give you an indication of what evidence they have for reasonable suspicion.

They will look for things like a possible connection to the victim. Do you know the victim, or have you previously been in contact with them, for example. When it comes to your internet browsing history, that is almost seen as a window into someone's mind, so the police will be searching for anything linking you to the victim, such as visiting their social media pages.

I understand what you mean, currently on RUI, no info as to whether or not a charge is to be made hasn't been provided to me. I've been RUI since July of this year, I don't know how long it will take for them to make a decision or how long it has taken them to examine my devices such as phone and laptop, or do you think they've already examined them by now? They've had my devices since April. I haven't been interviewed again. Do you think they'll look through everything since beginning of time on phone and laptop or just bits and pieces?

The officer who arrested me informed me a few months after that my devices were in the process of being looked at, then a week or so later called to inform me ALL devices tested positive. I told him that was impossible and demanded he detailed what was found and where, the response I got was "I can not tell you" and he hung up on me. I informed my solicitor of this protesting the claims ALL devices tested positive yet he done nothing about it.

Police in all regions work differently to others, so there is no guarantee they will inspect your devices in the next few months or over all of next year. But when they do finally get round to it they will inform you if they found anything or not.

Seeing as you are not under any form of restrictions, try and live your life as normal as possible until they contact you. Document everything you are told / record if possible (even your solicitor)

So really, the moment they find something they told you immediately so it seems. In the circumstances of them investigating things of sexual nature involving children then I'd assume it would be top priority to them?
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Chesire - 23 Dec 21 11:05 AM
xDanx - 22 Dec 21 8:06 PM
Chesire - 22 Dec 21 7:24 PM
punter99 - 21 Dec 21 5:27 PM
I don't want to sound unsympathetic, but neither the police, or your solicitor, will be particularly concerned about how the investigation is affecting your mental health. That is because there is nothing unusual, about having to wait years, for the justice system to resolve a case. They see it every day, with every person that is accused. The CPS and the court system are overloaded with cases, waiting to come to court. That's just the way it is. There is nothing you can do, to speed things up. It isn't the fault of your solicitor, or the police, that things take so long. It is down to chronic underfunding of the system, over many years. You could try complaining to your MP, although I doubt that would speed things up either.

If you are on police bail, then you are subject to some restrictions on your life, but if you were RUI (released under investigation), then you are a free man, so try to live a normal life. That of course, is easier said than done. The police advised me to carry on as usual, not to quit my job or anything. I had a holiday booked and I asked the police if I could still go abroad. They said no problem. I could have got on a plane and disappeared from the UK, never to return.

If you need mental health support, then speak to a GP. I was on anti depressants and going to therapy, all the time I was RUI, which helped. Plus you have family members to support you. I can understand why you might not want to go out, if other people know that you have been arrested, although it is unlikely that this information will have been passed to the media. That only happens after you have been to court. Most important, remember that you are innocent until proven guilty, so you have nothing to be ashamed off.

When it comes to wrongful or unlawful arrest, and suing the police for abusing their powers, bear in mind that the police are allowed to arrest you, if they have reasonable suspicion. If they later decide not to charge you, then it was still a lawful arrest, provided they can demonstrate they had enough evidence for a reasonable suspicion.

This means they think they already have some kind of evidence, for them pick on you. They need a much greater amount of evidence to charge you though, and often when they seize people's devices, a lot of the time they are on a fishing expedition. They are hoping it will turn up more evidence. You don't say if you have been interviewed or not, but the questions that the police ask, will give you an indication of what evidence they have for reasonable suspicion.

They will look for things like a possible connection to the victim. Do you know the victim, or have you previously been in contact with them, for example. When it comes to your internet browsing history, that is almost seen as a window into someone's mind, so the police will be searching for anything linking you to the victim, such as visiting their social media pages.

I understand what you mean, currently on RUI, no info as to whether or not a charge is to be made hasn't been provided to me. I've been RUI since July of this year, I don't know how long it will take for them to make a decision or how long it has taken them to examine my devices such as phone and laptop, or do you think they've already examined them by now? They've had my devices since April. I haven't been interviewed again. Do you think they'll look through everything since beginning of time on phone and laptop or just bits and pieces?

The officer who arrested me informed me a few months after that my devices were in the process of being looked at, then a week or so later called to inform me ALL devices tested positive. I told him that was impossible and demanded he detailed what was found and where, the response I got was "I can not tell you" and he hung up on me. I informed my solicitor of this protesting the claims ALL devices tested positive yet he done nothing about it.

Police in all regions work differently to others, so there is no guarantee they will inspect your devices in the next few months or over all of next year. But when they do finally get round to it they will inform you if they found anything or not.

Seeing as you are not under any form of restrictions, try and live your life as normal as possible until they contact you. Document everything you are told / record if possible (even your solicitor)

So really, the moment they find something they told you immediately so it seems. In the circumstances of them investigating things of sexual nature involving children then I'd assume it would be top priority to them?

Police will prioritize what gives them the best results, whether they inform you or not is really all down to the officers mood and personality. I would think if anything was found they would inform you right away, but would happily delay informing you and prolonging the return of your devices when they find nothing.

I do hope though this will get resolved for you quickly and the return of your devices, being dragged through the broken justice system we have is not a nice experience.

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xDanx - 23 Dec 21 11:57 AM
Chesire - 23 Dec 21 11:05 AM
xDanx - 22 Dec 21 8:06 PM
Chesire - 22 Dec 21 7:24 PM
punter99 - 21 Dec 21 5:27 PM
I don't want to sound unsympathetic, but neither the police, or your solicitor, will be particularly concerned about how the investigation is affecting your mental health. That is because there is nothing unusual, about having to wait years, for the justice system to resolve a case. They see it every day, with every person that is accused. The CPS and the court system are overloaded with cases, waiting to come to court. That's just the way it is. There is nothing you can do, to speed things up. It isn't the fault of your solicitor, or the police, that things take so long. It is down to chronic underfunding of the system, over many years. You could try complaining to your MP, although I doubt that would speed things up either.

If you are on police bail, then you are subject to some restrictions on your life, but if you were RUI (released under investigation), then you are a free man, so try to live a normal life. That of course, is easier said than done. The police advised me to carry on as usual, not to quit my job or anything. I had a holiday booked and I asked the police if I could still go abroad. They said no problem. I could have got on a plane and disappeared from the UK, never to return.

If you need mental health support, then speak to a GP. I was on anti depressants and going to therapy, all the time I was RUI, which helped. Plus you have family members to support you. I can understand why you might not want to go out, if other people know that you have been arrested, although it is unlikely that this information will have been passed to the media. That only happens after you have been to court. Most important, remember that you are innocent until proven guilty, so you have nothing to be ashamed off.

When it comes to wrongful or unlawful arrest, and suing the police for abusing their powers, bear in mind that the police are allowed to arrest you, if they have reasonable suspicion. If they later decide not to charge you, then it was still a lawful arrest, provided they can demonstrate they had enough evidence for a reasonable suspicion.

This means they think they already have some kind of evidence, for them pick on you. They need a much greater amount of evidence to charge you though, and often when they seize people's devices, a lot of the time they are on a fishing expedition. They are hoping it will turn up more evidence. You don't say if you have been interviewed or not, but the questions that the police ask, will give you an indication of what evidence they have for reasonable suspicion.

They will look for things like a possible connection to the victim. Do you know the victim, or have you previously been in contact with them, for example. When it comes to your internet browsing history, that is almost seen as a window into someone's mind, so the police will be searching for anything linking you to the victim, such as visiting their social media pages.

I understand what you mean, currently on RUI, no info as to whether or not a charge is to be made hasn't been provided to me. I've been RUI since July of this year, I don't know how long it will take for them to make a decision or how long it has taken them to examine my devices such as phone and laptop, or do you think they've already examined them by now? They've had my devices since April. I haven't been interviewed again. Do you think they'll look through everything since beginning of time on phone and laptop or just bits and pieces?

The officer who arrested me informed me a few months after that my devices were in the process of being looked at, then a week or so later called to inform me ALL devices tested positive. I told him that was impossible and demanded he detailed what was found and where, the response I got was "I can not tell you" and he hung up on me. I informed my solicitor of this protesting the claims ALL devices tested positive yet he done nothing about it.

Police in all regions work differently to others, so there is no guarantee they will inspect your devices in the next few months or over all of next year. But when they do finally get round to it they will inform you if they found anything or not.

Seeing as you are not under any form of restrictions, try and live your life as normal as possible until they contact you. Document everything you are told / record if possible (even your solicitor)

So really, the moment they find something they told you immediately so it seems. In the circumstances of them investigating things of sexual nature involving children then I'd assume it would be top priority to them?

Police will prioritize what gives them the best results, whether they inform you or not is really all down to the officers mood and personality. I would think if anything was found they would inform you right away, but would happily delay informing you and prolonging the return of your devices when they find nothing.

I do hope though this will get resolved for you quickly and the return of your devices, being dragged through the broken justice system we have is not a nice experience.

I've just recieved good news 3hrs ago I just got an email from my solicitor, she told me police decided not to charge me. NFA.
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